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joojie t1_jcwv9qu wrote

Reply to comment by Martholomeow in British man deported to Jamaica launches action against Home Office | Richard Wallace wrongly classed as Jamaican and deported after serving murder sentence, despite having been born in London by kwentongskyblue

People who are charged with murder have a trial in front of a judge and jury. The purpose of this judge and jury is to decide whether the right to live freely in society is taken away (and in some cases right to life at all, but that's a whole other can of worms) The judge and jury do not decide that this person now has no human rights at all and that they can be treated however this person or that person sees fit.

Once time is served, this human is now a part of society again. But you think we can just arbitrarily remove rights as you see fit? That's a slippery slope....

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crashspeeder t1_jcwsqwz wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in British man deported to Jamaica launches action against Home Office | Richard Wallace wrongly classed as Jamaican and deported after serving murder sentence, despite having been born in London by kwentongskyblue

Rights aren't only for good people, straight people, white people, neurotypical people, patriotic people, or people who don't protest. Rights are for everyone (thus the name, rights, not privileges). Rights have been denied to many groups, and will continue to be denied to anyone "different" unless we fight against it. The mentally disabled are often the worst off, because they're easily taken advantage of, or coerced into confessing to something they didn't do. Work your way through the above list and come up with a good reason each group that doesn't fall into any of those should be denied their rights. If you genuinely believe the reason(s) you give then you're likely to be swayed by an authoritarian figure looking to exploit your fervor for their power.

When human rights are denied to the least of us they can be denied to all of us. Nobody is defending a murderer just to defend him. But what crimes would warrant the loss of rights you're so up in arms about? Vagrancy was a crime, but only black people were really accused of it. From that point on they were criminals, and even easier to deny rights to. Speaking out against the government can also get you put in jail, depending on how you exercise that right. Sometimes the government does genuinely bad things. You shouldn't lose your rights because you called attention do the government's misdeeds. And laws change. What's illegal today may be legal tomorrow. Similarly, now abortions are illegal in many states, but they were legal before. Politics changes laws, so being a convicted felon shouldn't mean you get carted off to a foreign country to figure out how to start your life from scratch. It's not that country's problem/fault, and it's your right as a citizen to live in the country you're a citizen of. What you're suggesting is being stripped of citizenship and leaving somebody stateless. I don't know that you understand the implications of that.

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pensezbien t1_jcwe6fk wrote

Reply to comment by Smaugb in British man deported to Jamaica launches action against Home Office | Richard Wallace wrongly classed as Jamaican and deported after serving murder sentence, despite having been born in London by kwentongskyblue

Whether the example you give is a good thing or a bad thing, it’s not at all exactly this - in that scenario they are deporting non-citizens who have committed crimes to their country of citizenship.

This man is a British citizen born and mostly raised in the UK (although he had spent some years living in Jamaica) where the UK government insisted he was someone else, deported him to Jamaica, incorrectly accused him of using his genuine British passport fraudulently when he returned a few years later, and jailed him for additional years on that basis.

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IOnlyPostNiceThings t1_jcwavep wrote

Reply to comment by BlueFox5 in British man deported to Jamaica launches action against Home Office | Richard Wallace wrongly classed as Jamaican and deported after serving murder sentence, despite having been born in London by kwentongskyblue

That’s a long running joke in the UK about whether people are considered Scottish or British. Has absolutely nothing to do with countries outside the UK like Australia or Canada.

Typical American, fails to understand the joke and then vomits his worthless opinion all over everyone else that nobody asked for.

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Smaugb t1_jcw6fkf wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in British man deported to Jamaica launches action against Home Office | Richard Wallace wrongly classed as Jamaican and deported after serving murder sentence, despite having been born in London by kwentongskyblue

The Australians are doing exactly this right now.

New Zealanders can freely live and work in Australia.

New Zealand citizens who in many cases have been in Australia since they were children are being forcibly deported back to New Zealand after conviction.

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