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yoyo456 OP t1_ja3v0g5 wrote

The main highway goes through the town. They were stuck in traffic. They were shot at point blank and the terrorist ran off by foot. They were going to their yeshivas in Olga (about 45 minutes north of Tel Aviv) and Kiriyat Shmonah (near Lebanese border) not even in the West Bank.

If you don't like Jews driving through, don't build your village on the main highway.

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SCZ- t1_ja3ub3x wrote

Yes the British Empire (along with France) has done unspeakable damage to the middle east; damage that is felt to this very day. However blaming the Brits for doing stuff 80 years ago isn't going to help anymore. Also twisting the historical facts that led to this conflict (like you just did) doesn't help either. How the UN would've partitioned the land is irrelevant because at that time the Arabs in Mandatory Palestine and in bordering countries did not condone the idea of a Jewish state in any boundary whatsoever. Moreover, the Arab states did not attack Israel to "free Palestine" (meaning to establish a Palestinian state) but to take the land for themselves. Further proof for that is that the West Bank and the Gaza Strip were Jordanian and Egyptian territories respectively until 1967 yet they did not establish a Palestinian state. Not only that, but the PLO (the Palestinian Liberation Organization) was established in 1964 when there was no Israeli occupation in the West Bank nor Gaza whatsoever (you can try and guess what they actually wanted to "liberate").

You also failed to mention that many Israeli Prime Ministers (both left wings and right wings) have tried to negotiate with the Palestinian but failed. The worse of then all was the Oslo Accords and then later the Camp David talks that eventually collapsed due to an intentional and planned uprising (the second intifada) by the Palestinian leadership.

But even after that, Israel gave the entire Gaza Strip to the Palestinians, Jew free as they wanted, with no conditions as a solid step toward peace and that also blew up in Israel's face.

There's a good reason why over the years Israelis have been leaning more and more toward the right political spectrum, whether it be the Palestinian leadership unwillingness to compromise even a bit for peace or the endless terror attacks against innocent civilians by suicide bombers or rocket barrages.

To this day the Palestinians haven't returned to the negotiating table. They deliberately incites its population against Jews, glorifies terror attacks against Israelis and even pays salaries to convicted terrorists (pay for slay).

So saying that "yeah both sides are bad" is giving the Palestinians way too much credit that they actually deserve.

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olympicbadger t1_ja3tfq7 wrote

> This is an absolutely pointless protest that will achieve nothing.

It will showcase the Finnish people's desire to continue supporting Ukraine against Russia, which directly contributes to the amount of political power the Finnish government has to send Ukraine more aid and defense materiel. It will without a doubt achieve something.

It's kind of like playing dumb and being a smug asshole towards people taking part in this protest. It won't cause Russia to immediately and magically win the war, but in a small way it actively contributes towards it by making fun of people opposing them.

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Homely_Corsican t1_ja3q4ta wrote

I put some blame on the British for allowing two divergent societies to form in 1920s and 1930s. Some of the blame also rests on the UN for not allowing for a more peaceful partition. The Palestinians use of terror has not helped, nor have illegal occupations, blockades, or the creation of illegal settlements (all of which incredibly exacerbate the problem and delegitimize Israel on the world’s stage). Let’s not forget Israeli extremism. When you have a PM who says that Palestinians as a people don’t exist, how you move forward from that? How can you negotiate with someone perpetually victimizing you and denying your very existence?

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nolok t1_ja3ptcj wrote

Honest question: do you really believe Macron and his entire team, whose entire job is to think and consider those issues, are not at least as smart or competent as you in these matters? And the same thing for other leaders who talk about such matters?

If the answer is yes, then good for you I hope you achieve all you can be then. If not then maybe you can realize there are things that escape you, and notably secondary dialogue behind the public messaging?

China just changed ever so slightly some part of their position, and what they publicly call their "peace plan for Ukraine" , and now other countries are letting them know whether it changed anything or not in their view.

Same reason why zelensky said he was ready to talk with China about their peace plan, the idea was simply to make it clear their position was still Ukraine would be the main interlocutor, not "China negotiates between Russia and the US".

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yoyo456 OP t1_ja3pmd7 wrote

>they’re almost always branded as terrorists

Because, at least since the beginning of the year, they were almost always members of terror groups.

>deserving of it by being in close proximity to militants regardless of who they are.

These are the people my heart goes out too as well. They don't choose who lives next to them or what is done next door and yet get caught in the crossfire anyways. But the alternative is to let terror groups go without threat. Of course it is sad there are civilian casulaties, but the IDF tries to minimize them and succeedes in recent years compared to other armies (obviously there are some, but at least less)

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