Palena had some sort of tax issues (or to be more precise not paying taxes issue, IIRC). Sad because they had the best burger in DC

The perception of danger and just the general unpleasantness of crossing the road is probably enough to reduce viability

I respect that point of view a lot

Wat? There's like 4. Target has almost everything except produce and streets is impressively dense albeit expensive

Are you talking about the intersection at Porter that the city has completely fucked up for 2 years for no reason?

I just moved from there and they have so fucked up that intersection I can't believe people haven't died. All they did was make traffic insane and it looks like an abandoned inner city project

Not being allowed to have at least drinks on the Metro is insanity. Let's keep it clean and pretty while people are stuck in a tunnel for 20min

I thought about that, but it’s actually a closer walk from the metro than Buna. Petworth is weird with its metro stop basically being the southwest corner of the neighborhood.

What do you think gentrification is? These areas have always been the richest in the city

I want Uptown to come back… what a gem.

Its ok imo but i think its overhyped. I pop in every once in awhile for some breakfast but it feels overpriced for what you get.

Produce section there is good but their meats are extremely lacking

Is it me or is cracked eggery extremely overhyped?

Yes Market is pretty good don’t you think?

r/fuckcars

nah, 2.5 car lanes, 2 bus lanes, and rest sidewalk and protected bike lanes.

It’s stuck because it wants to be stuck, it’s not like there’s any undeveloped lot, or any area zoned for multifamily that isn’t already using it. If they want new residents and the development and new restaurants that serves those new residents they need to upzone. There’s single family houses 300 feet from the metro stop, there just aren’t enough people per square mile at that density to support a lot of stuff

maybe, I was at an age where a bagel place was way more interesting than a coffee place...

You’re getting a Buffalo and Bergen, dumb azzes

In the 90s they had three, and by the 00s they had 1 1/2.

The dynamics of the neighborhood shifted noticeably around the time Klingle Rd closed - of the residents catching the metro, who would be more prone to drinking coffee, they could not take a beverage with them on the train and would wait until they were at work.

There hasn’t been a thriving lunch community in CP in .. well .. practically never: most all of the restaurants were geared towards dinner. As a result the people behind Tryst/ The Diner, Big Bear, etc.. were frosty on CP because of the hours of its foot traffic - with rent being as high as it was, having a storefront empty for 60-70% of the day didn’t make sense.

Lastly, online ordering of coffee, as well as K-cups, killed the impetus of going to a coffee shop in that neighborhood - hence why it took Starbuck’s a while to close down.

I read an interview with the owner once where they asked him about how dark everything was and he said he liked them that way and he was far enough along in his career that he had decided that Bread Furst was where he was just going to make things just for himself/ the way he wants them. Basically that he has spent his whole career appeasing customers and now just wants to appease himself. So I guess you can thank the cranky-old-mannishness of Mark Furstenburg for the well done croissants?

Remember when all the CP businesses fought the plans for turning the service lane into an expanded sidewalk area? They all had signs in their windows saying Save the Service Lane and were adamant that without those parking spaces they couldn't survive.

Yes indeed! Buffalo & Bergen I’d coming to that spot soon!

>preservation' killed Cleveland Park

What are you talking about? Cleveland Park is in the same state it's always been? A quieter residential part of dc with a nice little strip of shops and restaurants. There, Van Nes, and maybe Tenlytown are the only places in the city that haven't been gentrified to death.

"Historically significant strip mall" still gets me. What a joke.

Retail dies in CP because of the overall history of CP: it was originally planned as a streetcar suburb, hence the strip mall & Piggly Wiggly, and not patterned to become anything remotely close to 1900s Georgetown or Tenleytown, as a result the repeated/ ingrained mindset of the residents (decade in decade out) has been to shop elsewhere.

And cars with or without historical preservation didn’t kill CP: if you look at how the neighborhood thrived in the late 80s through to the mid 00s, you’d understand that cars were a major factor in uplifting the area to turn it into a destination for diners & nightlife ~ whether they were going to the movie or not.