I remember whatsabagel, but wasn’t there a coffee shop there at the same time? Sometime around the early-mid 00s (fwiw I moved to DC in 03)

i think of the coupe as being more in columbia heights (or 11th street if you consider that its own neighborhood). But if you're at the southern end of petworth then it's pretty close by.

They're on the list but I don't really trust that everyone on the list really opposes bike lanes. I think the anti-bike lane people bullied or just lied to places to get them to sign. I'm planning to call a few places to check.

Are you thinking of Whatsabagel? They were around in the park and shop in the 90s. Same owners I think as Bethesda Bagels.

i feel like the odds are pretty good one moves into the Philz space. I have no evidence this will happen, of course. Just a feeling.

That’s because of the ANC pushing to limit restaurant licenses post the closure of Klingle Rd - some of the neighbors want a neighborhood that isn’t retail.

They sell coffee but it is definitely not a coffee shop! It's too weird drinking coffee out of a paper cup while sitting at a table with a tablecloth! I mean I am glad they have coffee but it doesn't serve the same function as a coffee shop

Last I heard they were considering staying in Cleveland Park too if they could work it out -- have you heard anything about that?

I consider that block to be Van Ness...I suppose it's just as close to the Tenleytown Metro but being situation around CT ave rather than WI means I think of it as an extension of the rest of van ness. Definitely its own thing (with lots of housing / no retail separating it from the part of van ness near the metro) but until it gets its own name, I call it van ness. Or I call it "the area by politics and prose"

I think the bread is the appeal more than the pastries

There was once a “Brothers Coffee”. I(I think that was the name or close to it). Zero parking. That’s why it’s always at risk. The parking can barely support what’s already there. Off street is an mess (esp. with all the road work), no real parking lot or garages (the old Jamal’s is too small and fills up fast) so zero drop by traffic.

Plus it’s a pain in the ass to even navigate in streets in CP. There was always a lot of foot traffic (starting back when Poor Robert’s (or Richard’s) bar/restaurant was there 40 years ago and there was plenty of action back in the 90s but it lost a bunch of retailers that drew people (even just the Micky DS).

I’d bet that the the reason as to why the driving percentage is low is because there’s no parking.

That place slapped! Loved the sandwiches

None of those things you mentioned are in Van Ness. Van Ness is a section of the Forest Hills neighborhoods that stretch from CP up to those shops stopping before the CVS. The 5000 block of Connecticut ave is more its own little thing that fills the gap between Van Ness and Chevy Chase

No it is not. Hence my use of the word « should » in the original comment. 🙃

Woodley needs groceries too

The crossing bit was a bit dramatic, for a comment that was otherwise well-stated. That said, there are constantly avoidable car accidents happening on CT in Cleveland and Woodley Park so I can see how some people may feel slightly less at ease.

And we can’t forget Little Red Fox (RIP), Comet Pizza, and Politics & Prose

Van Ness is solid af

Never actually tried their croissants! Thanks for the heads-up.

Holy crap, I had forgotten all about this place!

Yep, moved away for a long time came back and it is the.same. No growth and stagnant. Hip to be square, I guess, some place has to be. Trendy and

So's Your Mom is a lot better than CYM tho lol and is a great bagel place (by any standard except NYCs)

I hope the croissants are no longer burnt. I gave up on them after weeks after too many well done croissants and no sign that some one person had been leaving them in too long. I just don't get the attraction for mediocre pastries. They do have a decent patio and obviously it's a neighborhood fave, so, hey diff strokes etc.

SWTG you guys gaslighting pedestrians never ends. Pedestrians shouldn't have to worry about both y'all and MD drivers; life is hard enough.

Having grown up in DC and lived in CP for a bit 6/8 years ago, CP has always been like this. It’s just as falling apart as it ever was.

I think the problem is that new residents see all the growth in the rest of the city and are bummed it hasn’t also happened in CP.

But unfortunately not everywhere can be 14th St. neighborhoods like CP, Glover Park, North Connecticut Ave, all just seem perpetually stuck.