You should post this in nextdoor instead

What do you mean you people.

While we're here: Adams Morgan needs a (proper) bagel shop

they just opened next to surfside on wisconsin!

yep the problem is simple. CT ave is 6 lanes of sheer shitshow for cars. Yet the city-run survey showed that 64% of CP store customers walked/biked and 16% took transit - only 19% drove. But nearly all public spaces is for drivers and room to store their cars.

I was driving on the Beltway and was the only sucker not speeding. Even in front of a police officer. Why is Maryland so damn lawless?

It angers me too. There is an obvious middle ground in enforcement. I agree that fare jumping shouldn’t give people a criminal record, huge fines, or jail time. But it can’t be ignored. So hit fare jumpers with ejection and small fines. It would stop if you were escorted off metro and can’t get where you are going.

They definitely did at one point, but I think the might’ve lost access though? It’s a beautiful space that should get some use

What’s the main Saku Saku? I only know the Cleveland park location

i mean look at the shit against the macklin redevelopment. that should have been a slam dunk. (for the record, I'm on the Wisconsin corridor, we've had our share of nimbyism, but CP is third only to the palisades (anti school, kicked out the safeway) and spring valley (ok with mustard gas, but not any affordable housing)

That’s a dying part of the city for businesses

Yeah fare jumpers are why the system is struggling. You nailed it

Come to think of it, I can’t say that I have. Which tends to prove your point.

I tend to think pure, unadulterated NIMBYism is the Cleveland Park culprit. Also the street scape is an atrocious war zone and has been for half a decade. I don’t have any clue what they’ve been trying to accomplish, but that little business district on Conn has been in various stages of construction and demolition for the entire time I’ve lived here, with zero visible progress.

....have you been around glover park in the past 4 years? its been dying arguably worse than CP for the same reasons.

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I've never seen a post about this topic. You're really breaking ground talking about this here. Thank you for this important dialogue.

Why do you care?

I’ve never been to a Wizards game, is it fun?

The main saku saku is moving to Tenleytown for good reasons.

Less nimbyism. More new development. Look at cityridge. 1000 new apts. instant customers. We have new developments which gave us wegmans, target, and trader joes. All came with hundreds of new apartments and condo. Btw, all were fought over, but the nimbys (led by the current chair of the DC council) lost. Also Wisconsin in parts is a parking lot, not a freeway. In Georgetown it is barely two lanes. Sadly parking lots are still better for businesses than freeways.

Also the palisades is a food desert, so they all come to Wisconsin to shop.

(edit, this is for wisconsin from tenleytown south, friendship heights is dead - wisconsin there is a 8 lane highway in parts)

I can’t say for sure, but I get the sense that CP rents are higher than pretty much any comparable neighborhood in upper NW. which seems completely counterintuitive…I would assume that rents would roughly reflect the market. You’d think rents would generally hover around the upper limit of what businesses can/are willing to pay. But it seems like high rents are consistently driving CP businesses out of business. I have no idea why developers keep rents at a level that basically ensures there will be no steady business…you’d think steadily collecting slightly lower rents would be better than not collecting higher rents. But hey, what do I know?

Given that a large chunk of WMATA’s funding is from fare revenue, it’s millions of dollars each year that could’ve been spent on improving the service. So yeah, fare evasion ultimately affects all of us

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Van Ness also has Bread Furst which is also packed on any given day