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Gumburcules t1_j9zsktb wrote

Reply to comment by steveaustin69 in Gambet DC by Homework-Silly

> (e.g you can only place the most boring bets)

Yeah, I am not a sports or betting person at all but I had a family obligation to watch the super bowl with people and I figured I could at least make some fun bets to make watching interesting.

They had literally none of the prop bets every other site had. You could bet on the outcome of the game and a few scores at the quarter/half and that was it. I didn't even care about getting good odds, I just wanted interesting bets. They could have easily had my money but instead they got nothing because their bets suck.

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Ok_Culture_3621 t1_j9zs6fu wrote

Exactly. By the time a child gets to the point of being willing to threaten the life of a total stranger for their stuff, so much has already gone wrong I don’t think the threat of incarceration is going to matter much. And the frustrating thing is, we know what the roots of this are. We just don’t have the political will to address it.

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Ok_Culture_3621 t1_j9zrk5v wrote

> At issue is how to deter kids from committing crimes

I have an issue with this line. I’m no expert but it seems by the time a child gets to the point where they need to start considering the criminal consequences of an action, they’re already too far gone for deterrence to matter much. If the idea of threatening an old lady on her way to chemo isn’t a deterrent, what is?

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addctd2badideas t1_j9zrifj wrote

I get why you think this is somehow a systemic and racial justice issue. If it were, many many more kids would be committing crimes, and as others have said, it's a lot of the same kids committing the same crimes over and over again.

No one's asking for kids to be executed. No one's saying don't address systemic injustice and racial inequality. No one is saying throw these kids in jail forever. So stop acting like that's what people are advocating.

There has to be a balance for law-abiding citizens who subscribe to the social contract to be able to live their lives mostly without fear, walk out of their house in their own neighborhood and be able to support their families.

There has to be justice for both the kids that have been failed by their parents and the victims of their crimes. That means preventing these crimes. And you can do so by putting the kids in jail but also making sure when they get out that they won't be repeat offenders. And right now, that's not happening.

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Udolikecake t1_j9zqs34 wrote

Yeah, it’s really a very small minority committing the vast majority of crimes.

Boston did a great program in the 90s to solve this and it was wildly successful. Been done in many cities.

> In Boston, for example, which at the time had a population of roughly 556,180 people, approximately 1,500 individuals were identified as comprising 61 separate groups. This 0.3% of the population was responsible for 60% of the city's homicides.

This holds true in many cities. Like 1000 problem kids do 60-80% of all the killing. Targeting them and getting them off the streets does wonders. They focused all their resources into a few hot spots with these criminals and almost entirely eliminated youth gun violence.

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