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Gilyon01 t1_j8tgd2e wrote

I'm saying that there existed a generalized law enforcement in both colonial and post colonial United States. A sheriff, or constables, or marshals, or a citizen based night watch. I'm not sure why the existence of groups dedicated to the enforcement of slavery has more of an importance to the history of law enforcement in the US than the actual law enforcement apparatus in place at the time. I'm also not saying that people who were part of slave patrols couldn't have turned into municipal police as they were formed. Neither am I saying that municipal police didn't enforce racist laws.

The statement that "Policing in the United States came from Slave Patrols" is saying that the origination of the enforcement of law in this country came directly from a desire to enforce slavery. The fact that racist laws and policies exist doesn't lead to the conclusion that these departments were created for the purpose of enforcing those laws specifically. It's more that the departments were complicit along with other aspects of government in the oppression. Which isn't the same thing.

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No-Yoghurt9348 t1_j8te613 wrote

These are the moments that I am so grateful my 5'2" pixie of a daughter has been taking kickboxing and muay thai for like 7 years. Tiny, but an absolute powerhouse. I don't want her to compete, but I would love for her to one freaking give one of these guys a beat down.

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justmahl t1_j8tbcjw wrote

So I guess according to you, the same men that participating in the slave patrols, who saw it as their right to control and keep blacks in line just gave up their mission and retired once the 13th and 14th amendments were passed?
Then comes along the concept of police forces in these exact same areas giving police officers the exact same authority that the slave patrols had, specifically with regards to cracking down on Jim Crow laws. These police had free reign to terrorize, beat and kill blacks legally, and....the slave patrolmen weren't interested?

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justmahl t1_j8talty wrote

https://naacp.org/find-resources/history-explained/origins-modern-day-policing
"Slave Patrols continued until the end of the Civil War and the passage of the 13th Amendment. Following the Civil War, during Reconstruction, slave patrols were replaced by militia-style groups who were empowered to control and deny access to equal rights to freed slaves. They relentlessly and systematically enforced Black Codes, strict local and state laws that regulated and restricted access to labor, wages, voting rights, and general freedoms for formerly enslaved people.
In 1868, ratification of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution technically granted equal protections to African Americans — essentially abolishing Black Codes. Jim Crow laws and state and local statutes that legalized racial segregation swiftly took their place.
By the 1900s, local municipalities began to establish police departments to enforce local laws in the East and Midwest, including Jim Crow laws. Local municipalities leaned on police to enforce and exert excessive brutality on African Americans who violated any Jim Crow law. Jim Crow Laws continued through the end of the 1960s."

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DrunkWoodchuck t1_j8t7op1 wrote

Well, he wasn’t placed on leave until Feb ‘22, so there likely a whole lot of complicit cops still there, even if he was the only one dumb enough to get caught texting Tarrio.

> Tarrio asked Lamond what the police department’s “general consensus” was about the Proud Boys. “That’s too complicated for a text answer,” Lamond replied. “That’s an in-person conversation over a beer.”

I feel bad for this guys lawyer who has to spin “let’s have a beer” into “my client in no way supports the hateful and divisive agenda of any of the various groups that came to DC to protest…”

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OohDeLaLi t1_j8t765l wrote

That's actually not true. Vouchers are legally viewed as a source of income, which cannot be discriminated against in Washington DC. Now, do some landlords still do that? Sadly yes. And they can be taken to court by the applicant for some good money and/or accommodation if the applicant is wise to the law.
Landlords and property managers are required, by law, to accept vouchers.
That being said, DCHA (now split into two organizations) was so messed up that the application process would get hung up for months, during which time another person with money ready to go can walk in and apply to take the property. The landlord can continue to list the property until payment is received by an applicant, and it's easy to see arguments on both sides for discriminatory behavior.
It's all a mess.

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