Do you include restaurant owners in that?

I care when people are being intentionally cheap and stingy, yeah. It bothers me.

Ticket base price is $15 and service fee is $20.

What? No. I don’t go to restaurants that impose mandatory tips. Bye now.

For someone who claims not to work in the industry, you sure do care an awful lot about tipping on take out orders.

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Yes, and you'll eat that mandatory 20% tip if it's applied so that workers dealing with the apparently large numbers of cheap and angry DC diners can be adequately paid.

Wrong again

Dude, tip whatever you want and the rest of us will do the same.

And no, my pad Thai eat in is the same price as takeout.

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Yes. Takeout has no service element except handing me a bag.

It's not the same tip. You aren't getting drinks etc. so your tab is generally significantly smaller with a pickup order.

Bro, this is America. It does.

At this particular place, the people plating the food and serving the food and boxing the takeout are…the same people. They package it up for me, and it sits there til I come get it. They don’t have to seat me, or answer any questions, or bring me drinks or bring me food or extra utensils when I drop my fork. No, it’s not worth the same tip.

Correct, it is worth nothing to me over the price of the food. You are very confused if you think the responsibility of paying the staff falls on me the consumer.

I don't understand why the labor of people dealing with pickup orders (of which there are a lot more now) is worth nothing, or $1 or whatever. People really do love to save a little money.

Is the labor of workers at Thip Khao dealing with hordes of pickup orders worth nothing to you?

You said, "A lot of service industry staff make out like bandits" which is definitely not correct.

Pretty simple, that pizza would have sat on the counter. I would have refused to accept. If they provide service above and beyond, I'll tip. If they just do the ordinary, I'm not going to! It's not like their prices are cheap. $19 for a cheese pizza is just as likely to get my business as $24 so they'd do better to just price it up front.

Too many choices, especially for good pizza in the district to accept that.

So you would be fine with a big "pickup fee" to account for workers dealing with pickup orders? I'm sure many angry people on Reddit would be posting about that.

My office job also is not as violent as "entering UFC cage" but I'm still paid for my work. Who cares?

just tell them you're not going to pay it and if they refuse to delete it walk out without the pizza. let them throw the pie away

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I think it’s partly how everything is taxed, adding 20% to the total would be taxed differently than 20% as tips as the tax for that is passed to the employee generally.

Red Light is notorious for this. I stopped going there for this very reason. They can fuck right off with their service charge.