I see. So the size of the city shortens the geographic distance. Gotcha. 😆

Gonna play devils advocate to the common consensus in this thread. Boston proximity has indeed led to a higher desirability in NH (close to jobs), but that’s not the main reason.

VT just doesn’t have the housing to support 2x more people. Apartments and homes surely could be built to accommodate more people, and I’m sure plenty of people would love to move to VT, but right now housing costs and lack of supply keep tons of people out of state.

Not only is this problematic today, but if the VT populace continues to trend to an older demographic, the state is going to be in even more trouble with the tax base.

Across the country, the bread-and-butter for states & municipalities to pay for nice services is taxing high-earners, generally people between 30-55. VT makes it really hard to grow that base of people.

The south is ugly, and the north is filled with Trumpers. No thank you

The flatland near the ocean

Boston.

Boston is a larger city than Burlington. A good chunk of Fairfield county is an hour north of Manhattan, and I think everyone would call Fairfield county a suburb of NYC. There are also a ton of large employers north of Boston in the Burlington/Andover region like Raytheon, HPE, etc. that makes commuting from NH much easier.

I have starlink. No issues at all. It’s very fast and hardly ever goes down. It doesn’t work in heavy rain but that’s about it.

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Also, both get sparser farther north, but VT gets bigger in the north while NH gets smaller

Source?

Can I get a source or you know, anything factual, besides Less taxes. Being friendly depends on many things.

I think this is the one you're referring to. Talks about how geology has affected the development of VT and NH.

https://www.vermontpublic.org/programs/2017-09-08/how-has-the-geology-of-vermont-affected-its-character

This. Coastal state vs landlocked is kinda a no brainier. Especially the way our country developed. Pretty sure that is a global thing that coastal areas have more population.

Portsmouth is an hour north of Boston. Would you call Barre “basically a Burlington suburb,”? 🤔

That sounds like a really good price. Do you mind saying which installer you went with and where generally you are located?

Well, VT uses something — because Rust is King here.

Can we just pin this and be done?

New Hampshire has sea ports.

People keep referencing a Brave Little State episode on this questino - I think this is it, although it doesn't specifically talk about population

https://www.vermontpublic.org/podcast/brave-little-state/2021-09-23/vermont-vs-new-hampshire-whats-the-beef

We currently have TDS at the house up there, and it’s terrible. They can’t meet the speeds my IT department requires for remote work

I do have a great spot with clear views. Thank you!

That’s awesome. Do you have the standard hardware?

Oh don’t get me wrong… I love it

TDS or Starlink. You get to choose between craptastic fiber or the minimum milliseconds delay that comes with all satellite connectivity.

Geography plays a role, Vermont was better suited to Agriculture and New Hampshire not as much, though New Hampshire was well suited for industrial production.

With agriculture, fewer people tend more land, and your hamlets and small towns develop accordingly. With industry and manufacturing, you need more people to work in a focused area and develop larger towns and small cities. Vermont's larger towns and cities tend to be a result of commerce (shipping, railroad hubs etc).

Brave Little State did an interesting piece on the development of the two states years ago.