Hi! Plenty of sweet river spots here that are great for kids and have the same vibe as swimming holes. Yes, swimming holes are often freezing and can often have slippery entrances that make them a challenge with young kids. Safe travels!

Tf you doing? Are you drinking champagne and having caviar every night?

👍✌️ Need $200k plus to really enjoy everything, including the herb

Better than me describing, buts it’s been near 40 years…hadn’t changed though.

Well, i actually have found some previous discussions if I search heat pump instead of mini split but I am still interested in hearing others' recent experiences.

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You’re absolutely right! $100k/yr is just enough to scrape by with a family.

Sorry I don’t have a Snapchat, I only have DogBook

If you’re in the NEK - Trail 2 Wellness in Burke is amazing!

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Real Vermonters own and carry guns…in short, Vermont sheep are likely to shoot back

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Sorry, I meant low six figures…weed, no meth

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Vermont can be pretty different depending on the area you are in. I'm in the NEK. Rural and rough. Tons of natural beauty. Very little of the cutesy, marketable Vermont style that places like Woodstock have, or the wealthy, resort life that places like Stowe have, or the vibrant, college-influenced city style that Burlington has.

There aren't enough people for some jobs here in the NEK (dentists, teachers, contractors), so we are hurting for those. If you can do those, please move here. But if you are looking for some major tech job out here, you aren't likely to find it. You'd have to go to Burlington. Even then, Burlington will likely not be enough if you are looking for truly high-power jobs.

Housing and jobs vary across the state, much like anywhere else. Burlington is expensive and will have the most variety in jobs. The NEK is inexpensive and has the least. Stowe is where you relax with your millions, and maybe go out and ski occasionally. You'd have to decide where you'd fit in best and what you can afford.

Crime in Vermont is minimal compared to most other USA states. The bigger the city, the more of it you're going to find, but it still won't compare to the worst areas of most other states. Lock your car doors in Burlington. Opioid use and suicide do tend to be more of a problem in this state than others from statistics I've seen.

I've lived in six states on both coasts and in the center of the US, north and south. I was very deliberate in choosing this area and would move heaven and earth to get here again if for some distressing reason I was suddenly living elsewhere. That said, this is what is good for me. There are many people who would be utterly miserable here, so you have to think about what is good for you. If you are a big city person, and/or like to go out on the town and experience endless variety in commerce, there isn't anywhere in Vermont you will like.

Not unavailable, just not what’s necessary to live even lower middle class lifestyle.

$50k income will struggle to buy a home. Rutland has devolved into a drug cesspool, unfortunately

Yeah, right. There’s nowhere to live because you ca t build there, which I’m good with. Fact is, per capita, homelessness is almost as bad as the west coast and rent and housing per sq ft isn’t far off either. Outside of SMBs, there’s virtually little corporate opportunity and the entire state lives and dies on how well the deacons go. Love the state and those Vermonters with generational legacies there, but it is scratching out a living, unless you’re among the rare who own a successful SMB or are in upper Mgmt in the few larger corps. Even overpaid, tenured professors at Middlebury College can afford a home there. Selfishly, having grown up there 40 years ago, I’m glad, other than the imports, very little has visibly changed, just the whacked out culture. Still one of the best places on the planet and Act 250 will keep it that way. Hmmmm, makes me think, “watch what you wish for”

I live in the Montpelier area. If you can get jobs with the State, that can be a very good thing for job security. National Life is another large employer in this area. I wouldn't come here without a secure job, it's not easy to hop to another one if something doesn't work out. Depending on the kind of work you do, options are limited. Housing is scarce.

I don't regret moving here but between the job market and the housing it's not necessarily easy to come here right now.

High six figures are you on meth?

I’m at half of that and live relatively comfortably. Making 6 figures is more than enough in this state if you have a half reasonable expectation.

Unemployment rate only counts those still looking for a job. And doesn’t account for the actual jobs themselves. This state is full of retirees, nursing positions to care for them, and minimum wage service jobs.

2.6% unemployment rate. So many jobs available in many many fields

Aerospace for one, tons of manufacturing jobs that start in the $20/hr range minimum.

As far as houses go, Rutland County has quite a few houses on the market cheaper than the rest of the state.

Vermont =/= Burlington

It’s a weird question to answer for those of us who grew up here because unlike other places with all the same issues we have that attachment to it because of our hometowns….. i lived out of state for a long time and to me it feels like VT is the only place with normal people in it. so yes I would still move back because I love the people here and being near family but would I recommend it over other more affordable places to someone without family ties to VT specifically? Idk. There’s lots of places with mountains and lakes sometimes I think about picking up everything and going to Lander WY. Even western MA has a lot of the same stuff as VT but the wages are higher, I’ve had a few friends move down there for that reason, same with central NY and the Hudson valley.

The state offers $7500 to incentivize workers moving here. So many people applied they paused the program. There are many many people enticed to move here. Finding housing is another issue.