I mean, reason being that climate change is giving the rest of the east coast the big flooding finger and it's only going to be worse, real soon. When I was working three years ago in the medical clerical field a lot of the new patients moving here were from coastal areas

Only nursing and jobs that don’t pay enough to live here.

Vermonter here, I work for the federal government and there are plenty of those jobs around here especially since most are work from home, my husband and I both work for the government but it’s still incredibly expensive to live here, we’d both like to move to southern New Hampshire and I would prefer New Hampshire over vermont any day!

If you're in southern Rutland County I can advise a couple spots

My wife and I moved to Vermont from New Hampshire 5 years ago. In that short amount of time, as with much of the country, real estate prices have increased considerably. Couple that with the higher cost of borrowing and home prices not really coming down, you have a pretty unfavorable market if you are looking to buy.

There are a lot beautiful places in Vermont. We bought a home in Stowe and plan on being here for many years to come. In my opinion, it’s the best place in the entire state. But of course I am biased. That said, the Mad River Valley (Warren/Waitsfield) is super nice and so is Waterbury. If you are looking for more city vibe, South Burlington is the spot. Anywhere in Chittenden County will be expensive because the schools systems are great.

As far as taxes, Vermont is one of the highest in the country for overall tax burden (I believe 4th last time I checked). Again, job scarcity depends on what industry you are in.

If you can swing it, Vermont is an incredible state. After 5 years in MA and 26 in NH, I can say from experience that VT is just better.

Strong house spa. Quechee

I agree that your critique concerned more than a typo (which might have been VTDigger’s anyway) but Hartman’s Law does not dictate typos must be the only crit, no. The descent into (mere?) pedantry can be pleasant given the right circumstances, but in this case the main proviso of ‘don’t point out typos in others’ words unless yours are proofed’ holds.

While it is true that people are generally motivated to protect their employers, it doesn’t actually mean they will or won’t make cogent arguments, so that’s why I’m saying it’s not that relevant. Is motivated self-interest inherently unethical? Realistically, you’d be hard-pressed to find an adult in St. J who is not affected by SJA. And that’s anecdotal I suppose, I don’t have enough data to sway any naysayers.

In general without knowing any situation deeply can’t you always just say “well that’s what you would say, given…”? causation =/= correlation.

Yeah this. There's about a million listings for like three jobs at different places.

Vermonter here. Jobs are really fucking scarce, especially ones that pay enough to live here. Bring your job with you or be independently wealthy. I’m really not kidding.

Housing is absolutely insane right now. We’re looking to move in a few months to a different school district and house prices have literally doubled since 2020. I wish I was kidding but ours went from $190k to damn near $400k since we bought in 2019.

Crime is spotty and generally not that bad. We have constitutional carry here so I recommend exercising it and not worrying anymore. Most small towns people don’t lock their doors or cars because everyone has a gun on them or readily accessible in their home.

Schools are not good here in general. We’re talking a mid 40% proficiency rate for math and reading. Some towns are sub 20%…

You will likely have little to no social life for years. This is a very insular state and people. If you’re not “in” the small town club, you’re semi shunned.

If you don’t have roots here, don’t come here. There are far better places in this country to move.

I’m staying here because the in-laws live nearby in VT, we have their only grandkids, and I’m fortunate to have a very well paying job. I’d recommend southern NH if you want that New England fix without most of the problems I mentioned above. I grew up there and it’s amazing the differences in such a small geographical leap.

Unless you work remote for an out of state company and make high six figures, you can expect low wages and shitty apartments

As far as crime rates hahahahahahhahahaha.

There were 26 gunfire incidents in Burlington last year. That's it. Our crime rate is so much less than most other areas of the country. Lock your doors and your car doors and it'll be mostly fine.

If I were out of state I'd never move here right now. Not in a million years.

We bought our home almost 15yrs ago after renting a 2 bedroom apartment for $1000/month.

Our home would now sell for double what we paid for it (but we'd have nowhere to live) and that EXACT same apartment now goes for $2000/month. It's mind boggling.

Job diversity is scarce. Plenty of work to be had. Do you work in the medical field? You can get a job anywhere in the twin states if so.

I’ll keep it simple: you

1. blamed St. Johnsbury Academy for high transportation costs and
2. implied a public high school would be more convenient or somehow have less expensive transportation

Both of these points need proof and you didn’t provide any. I tried to explain why the nation is experiencing high transportation costs but maybe you’re not interested in understanding. Enjoy your misdirected outrage!

Scarce jobs? Where did you hear that? We have a massive employee shortage in most areas.

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No educational institution pays property tax, though, except for for-profit schools, mostly daycare centers.

I heard that it might've closed but wasn't certain.

Says it’s permanently closed on Google

Respectfully, no there aren’t any I’d recommend. I prefer not to share my favorite river spots with strangers online. Nothing personal.

Rainbow Spa - Putney Rd, Brattleboro

Projecting much? Lol I assume you’re a baby based off of how aggressive you felt to be. (Sit down? Cute.) and this subsequent reply confirms it. You’re wrong. Do better. Maybe take a nap

Oh! Someone asked this on the UV FB group and the consensus was Rejuvenate in Thetford. I “liked” their page as a bookmark to myself to book there sometime in the near future.

Her prices look reasonable too.

Last week of August in 2021. The weather was very good and not too many mosquitoes to bother our son. We also toured Lake Bomoseen which is nearby; it was much bigger and had more amenities for families.

Ah, yes, I didn't think about all the baby gear we'd need to bring along. Do you have any swimming holes you'd recommend?