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SeiCalros t1_jebkf7y wrote

>White supremacy was not a concept in the minds of ordinary people at that time, as much as you wish it were.

in the 1920s? half a century after the american civil war? ten years before the aryan supremacist nazis took power in germany? the decade AFTER 'racist' was included in the oxford english dictionary?

i gotta say bruv despite your confidence i am getting the impression that your understanding of history is quite unburdened by the facts of history

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TrumpterOFyvie t1_jebk4xa wrote

Back in those days, very few people outside of London had seen a black person. Shakespeare was not of the ordinary British working classes. He was writing about a concept that was not a part of the vast majority of British people's lives. It was an "exotic" subject which didn't reflect the lives of ordinary Brits in any way.

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DavoTB t1_jebk00s wrote

In our friends’ neighborhood, it is roughly 30-40% empty houses, some of which have been empty for years. The realtors stopped putting signs out front. Some houses got taken over by squatters that hook up the electrical system to generators.

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TrumpterOFyvie t1_jebjnqm wrote

>but the two concepts are intrinsically linked - reverence for lily white skin back in those days was intrinsically associated with white supremacy in every place where white supremacy existed

No it wasn't, it was intrinsically linked to pale skin being seen as a status symbol given that rich and privileged people had the palest skin through non exposure to the sun, as I've explained before. White supremacy was not a concept in the minds of ordinary people at that time, as much as you wish it were.

>not to mention the fact that the reverence for lily white skin furthered white supremacy in places where it didnt have a strong foothold

It might well have done, yes. But white supremacy wouldn't gain any kind of foothold among ordinary white people until they started mixing with non white people and developing ignorant (and sometimes superstitious) ideas about them.

>now if you had said that the concepts existed separately from each other that would have been closer to true - but still debateabl

Well they did, because the admiration of pale skin back then was a way for ordinary white people to discriminate against each other, not other races.

>youre right there - its not like anybody in europe ever heard of the dark skinned moors that invaded christendom in the 7th century despite being mentioned in half the novels of the era

This doesn't mean that ordinary people in the UK had mixed with black people to form ideas of racial superiority, no. Again, it was all about class.

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worldofoysters t1_jebjk2x wrote

Leon Czolgosz shot the President but really it was the doctors who killed him, with their comical incompetence - McKinley was shot in the stomach and was appearing to recover, before an infection (probably caused by the botched operation) finished him off.

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DaNo1CheeseEata t1_jebjekr wrote

>nd unlike the US, where religious belief is holding steady,

Meanwhile in reality.

>A new report by Pew Research Center and the General Social Survey published on Tuesday found that the large numbers of people in the U.S who practice Christianity are declining. The religion's demographic has been dwindling since the 1990s, the report said, as many adults transition to an identity of atheist, agnostic or "nothing in particular

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christianity-us-shrinking-pew-research/

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jbazildo t1_jebjddl wrote

I mean it's not a harsh environment but we have 4 seasons and get snow. Any outdoor amusement parks are seasonal for sure. And 500 acres is a tiny piece of land for a Disney park. So yes you're correct. My comment was more an indictment who heard a rumor that doesn't even make sense and are no freaking out thinking their rural lame area is about to taken over by Disney

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temporarysecretary17 t1_jebizjb wrote

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SeanG909 t1_jebitm3 wrote

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