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Perpetual_Doubt t1_ja8fd52 wrote

Oh yeah I'm familiar with the black legend.

To be sure, nationalism tends to ignore inconvenient truths for the sake of a good story, but common appreciation of history will also ignore the more convoluted or less significant data - so it sometimes becomes hard to distinguish one from the other. Certainly at the time, the propagandists would have been in full swing - after all this was the time of the Wars of Religion. If we think social media today to be reductivist, that has nothing on the early printing press.

English policy in this period swung a bit wildly and without landing any significant blows. They were participants in the French Wars of Religion (for instance the disastrous campaign to try and help La Rochelle under Charles I) and bizarrely with the Netherlands iirc (despite backing the Netherlands in the wars of religion). I think in the Spanish-French War they didn't know which to back, and their involvement wouldn't have been too important anyway. I think James was criticised for not getting more involved in helping the Palatinate, but England was quite poor after Elizabeth so that was probably prudent.

All of that is fairly messy and doesn't produce an interesting narrative - and certainly not one to be championed by nationalists.

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Sufficient_Spray t1_ja8etbq wrote

He received royalties from 7-11 and others for about 17 years until the patent expired. How much? I have no idea. Kind of crazy it was in a small town in Kansas he created it and now it’s worldwide.

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greengo07 t1_ja8dilm wrote

very tempted to just say I am the sourced, even though i read it in many sci-fi novels and other sources throughout my life, just so you would engage with the ISSUE, not the source. ITs about IDEAS, not veracity. what criteria do YOu think we need to unify the world, is what I am getting at.

However, I did manage to find one source that addresses some of these and adds more. https://opentext.wsu.edu/marketing/chapter/2-2-the-international-marketing-environment-3/

IT seems thee are so many companies and organizations using "world unity" as a theme or goal, the criteria I mentioned have become obscured by them. So, the question is, do you have any IDEAS on what the criteria are for world unity, or not? there isn't any criteria set in concrete, and are considered FACT. This is a discussion about IDEAS. I look for factual sources where appropriate too, but this is not an instance where that is appropriate .

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Godtiermasturbator t1_ja8da2v wrote

That’s all very cool! I must admit though that after reading your first two sentences I scrolled down to make sure I didn’t see anything about Mankind or the Undertaker.

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mintvilla t1_ja8aicz wrote

Yeah the national curriculum is very neutral, you learn history from both sides of the story.

Its not exactly a british trait to boast/brag... we are known for under playing the situation, compared for example to our american cousins

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RhyminSimonWyman t1_ja89wrj wrote

If you're referring to the discrepancy between the amount of indigenous Americans in Spanish versus English speaking areas as though that provides evidence of a greater propensity for genocide among British settlers that's not a good comparison. There were simply many more native people in areas the Spanish conquered, nothing more to it than that.

You will note that there are still a lot of native people in South Africa and Nigeria, for example. In fact, very few people of British descent in either place. Of course the British committed genocide in all their colonies, but not more than the Spanish did

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NotHosaniMubarak t1_ja892r5 wrote

One really nice thing about this sub is that we get to see people learning about stuff.

The Scopes trial is really well known and because people like OP are learning about it now it'll keep being well known. It's like watching knowledge being handed down through the generations.

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