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The_Linguist_LL t1_j9rx1r9 wrote

Martha's Vineyard Sign Language is the language referenced here, not sure why that was left off. It's pretty cool, apparently influenced the development of ASL, though I don't know much on the topic.

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sjiveru t1_j9rw7rr wrote

I'm not actually sure that's true - I suspect it's much more that 1) adults are usually much less comfortable just Trying Things Out and want an explanation rather than a demonstration they have to mimic, and 2) adults are very, very much less frequently in situations where they absolutely cannot communicate in a language they already know and tend to intentionally avoid such situations. If you're willing to put yourself in much the same situation as a kid learning their first language, you'll be able to learn pretty much as well.

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sjiveru t1_j9rvh96 wrote

It's an extremely common misconception, though, among parents from linguistic minorities that trying to teach both their own language and a more socially connected language will somehow disadvantage their child, and they should focus exclusively on the prestigious language and leave the other one behind entirely. This is of course entirely false, though, and is often rooted in their own internalised prejudice towards their language and culture. You can quite effectively teach kids two languages, especially when they have clearly segmented domains of use.

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NewCanadianMTurker t1_j9rv4vy wrote

True. But I can understand why parents with different cultural backgrounds would prioritize their children learning English over their more obscure native languages. Excellent English skills are a requirement for most jobs in America.

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sjiveru t1_j9rur67 wrote

It's still very much endangered, though, and will be so until there's a sufficient population learning it as kids and going on to use it with their own kids.

(I think the title is about Hawai'i Sign Language, though, not Hawai'ian the spoken language.)

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