>That's just not true tho. TV had legions of fans too. From Sopranos to Friends.

There were less Sopranos type shows, and sitcoms are different thing entirely. They tend to be cheaper, tend to be less plot-driven.

>Cliffhangers aren't an streaming phenomenon dude.

Shows were much more commonly set up in the procedural 'monster/criminal/case of the week' style. Also seasons were longer so you felt like you got more from it.

>But between 00s to 2015 there were plenty of online spaces to talk about shows and cancellations were still ripe.

I think people have complained about cancellations in the late 00s and 10s tbh.

But there's definitely a lot more competition now.

>No, not as much. People just weren't into TV in the way that they are now generally

That's just not true tho. TV had legions of fans too. From Sopranos to Friends.

>And most shows were set up procedurally so that it could also kinda resolve itself.

Cliffhangers aren't an streaming phenomenon dude.

>In the 90s and 00s there were less online spaces to talk about shows, share show news etc. You likely just talked about TV shows with your friends.

But between 00s to 2015 there were plenty of online spaces to talk about shows and cancellations were still ripe.

Kinda weird but then again, psychology is weird

>Before we didn't?

No, not as much. People just weren't into TV in the way that they are now generally. And most shows were set up procedurally so that it could also kinda resolve itself.

>Don't really know what this is tbf

In the 90s and 00s there were less online spaces to talk about shows, share show news etc. You likely just talked about TV shows with your friends.

Now a HOTD episode thread can have 2000 comments in a day.

These all have endings what are you talking about? Disliking does not equal didn't go anywhere.

I was hoping for Jem Hadar and Vorta

Instead they give me Ro Laren?!

People didn't somehow develop a 'fear' of cancellations. You know what changed? There's a lot more competition now. 20 years ago, I had 5 TV channels, about 3 hours a day viable for airing 'mature' rated series, the only way to watch older series was buying $100/season boxsets, and there really weren't any serialized stories that had an ending to choose from even if you did that. Picking from the handful of shows airing on TV each night was the most common practical form of entertainment. Right now I've got over 1500 completed TV series available to stream beginning to end and at least as many movies, hundreds of video games and new ones on GamePass and PS+ each month, YouTube channels, Kindle Unlimited. The amount of entertainment practically available to the average person has increased by many orders of magnitude, and that means the bar for what you spend your time on has been raised. I've got more than 30 shows in my queue that I already know have a proper ending, and I don't have time to watch, read, or play even a tenth of what I'd like to. Why would I spend my limited time starting stories that might end halfway through when I have so much I can watch that I know won't? If you went to the cinema and there were 30 movies playing that guaranteed a full runtime, would you instead buy a ticket for one that had a 70% chance of ending at a random point partway through?

Does the behavior comply with the categorical imperative? No. But this is not a situation where I think you'll ever get people behaving in a way that does. And honestly, personally, I don't care. If this consumption pattern means that shows in the format I like don't get made, then they don't get made, I'm fine with that. I wouldn't go to the cinema if 4 out of 5 movies cut out mid-sentence 30 minutes in just because I love movies that have their full story, and if the movie industry said "but we can't financially support ourselves any other way", then that's a shame, but I'm still not going to keep buying tickets. I'd rather spend my time on other entertainment. That's exactly what this is. It isn't my responsibility to keep the TV industry financially viable. If they offer me what I want I'll buy it and if they don't they don't. I'm not going to spend my time and money on stuff I don't like, simple as that. It's not fear or idiocy to behave this way, and I guarantee you have the same attitude about something else you enjoy.

Definitely agree. I meant more that the game itself has great potential as an adaptation. I don't have much faith that Amazon will be able to realize that potential though... If HBO picked it up I'd have much higher expectations.

They did at least bring on key people from the game to work on the show though. That's a good sign.

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Charmed season 2 had a little girl named Jenny who lived next door to the Halliwells. The character was even featured in the opening title credits, so you think she's like a main character for that season....only she just barely appears in a handful of episodes and then is written off. Apparently, they realised early on that her character didn't add anything to the storylines.

>and how we get news about a cancellation or renewal very directly

Before we didn't?

>Netflix has created a catch-22 in many ways due to their strategies

It seems like the only way any company can avoid it is by keep airing shows no matter how unpopular or unprofitable.

Oh well, at the end it's a pity shows die but shows will keep coming.

>due to social media water cooler discussio

Don't really know what this is tbf

I would be inclined to agree, except that it's at Amazon which doesn't have the track record HBO does.

It’s not a new phenomenon, but one that is more visible due to social media water cooler discussion, and how we get news about a cancellation or renewal very directly. Netflix has created a catch-22 in many ways due to their strategies

Yeah, if you want to criticize the Kings, they had so many dropped plot lines in Good Wife. Like Kalindas husband. They just throw about 8 things at the wall at a time and only hold onto the 2-3 things that work.

This is an old one, but Star Trek TNG season one episode “Conspiracy”.

you might appreciate them more when you get old

and wouldn't you know it, that was about when the quality took a nosedive straight to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

I'm glad that Akiva Goldsman seems like he's gonna be busy with the I Am Legend sequel for a while.

“I don’t like how it ended up” isn’t the same as “it didn’t go anywhere.” We got resolutions for all these characters. They were boring and unimpressive, but the question isn’t “what stories had unsatisfying endings?”

He died. He fell off the water tower and died. He story wasn’t very good, but we know exactly where it went.

Yeah, I thought her taking out House Frey was just the beginning.

That's not a good example since the show is still ongoing and the Kings are known for picking up storylines years after they were introduced.

The first season of martial law ended with a cliffhanger fight against the big boss bad guy in a helicopter.

Season two started with another regular episode, with a throwaway line about how everyone was sure glad Law survived that helicopter fight.

I was gonna say. This dude absolutely ruled in that movie and now I wanna see everything he acts in.

I dropped it in the middle of Season 1. And I only kept with it that long because I was fresh from finishing POI and I wanted more Michael Emerson.

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