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bluecheesemoon- t1_jbwpf3u wrote

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IDontGetFunctions t1_jbwnf7t wrote

Talk shows and late night shows were once one of the few chances to hear from celebrities and assume they're "candid", also used to debut groundbreaking music. Now, they're fixtures for either the older or those who are super into celebrity culture.

Steven will never get even close. He does well enough that they want to keep him and let him do some big-budget things but Letterman dominated in an era where his kind of show was on the rise.

Colbert is a bigger recognizable star because of his comedy central show and politics than his talk show. Which is more about maintaining a particular audience.

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ViskerRatio t1_jbwiqv4 wrote

His ratings aren't appreciably different from Letterman towards the end. However, Colbert hasn't ever come remotely close to the number of viewers Letterman had during his heyday.

In general, late night talk shows have been on a long, slow decline and aren't all that relevant as part of the national conversation any more.

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peacefulwarrior75 t1_jbvixfn wrote

Car 54 where are you

Gomer Pyle usmc

Andy Griffith Show is more workplace than family

Mary Tyler Moore Show

The Phil Silvers Show

and the nineties were full of them:

John Larroquette Show

Newsradio

Just Shoot Me

many others

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Maninhartsford t1_jbv8lat wrote

That's it though. That's all anyone has said about it. I really don't want to come across like I'm defending Whedon but he was mean and nasty to a lot of people on his set and that might be all that quote means. Interpreting it as inappropriate sex stuff is entirely extrapolation. Just because you can think of a worst case scenario doesn't make it so. Again! This is not "Whedon was a good guy." This is "that's a really big accusation to pull out of one out of context quote."

Edit - to be completely clear, I was aware he was not allowed alone with Trachtenberg. I just find it troubling that people automatically assume the reason why was sexual abuse, to the point where OP was stating it as fact. It's jumping to conclusions. While there is much documentation on how emotionally abusive he was to the "out group" on his sets, which included Trachtenberg, nobody has ever actually accused him of assault, so people are legitimately just looking at that one quote and assuming the worst. There's so many reasons to dislike the guy, we don't need to start making them up.

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