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bernsteinschroeder t1_jbpz9ru wrote

Discovery and Pickard are original (sophomoric, and pretentious) stories trying to wear a Star Trek skin.

Even more unfortunately, since we know audiences still prize the Star Trek sci-fi motif by looking no further than The Orville. I absolutely detest 99.999% of Seth MacFarlane's humor and The Orville hits far more than enough of the sci-fi / Star Trek notes for me to look past it to love (and strongly recommend) the show.

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jamiestar9 t1_jbpwdxp wrote

No. The idea of Star Trek is that humans and society in the 23rd century are a bit more “evolved” than present day. TNG was really big on this. So was Voyager and Enterprise. I loved DS9 for the conflict, but that conflict was always smart and the shipmates (and even adversaries) respected each other. Sisko yelling was just more excellently written dialogue served up at higher intensity!

Star Trek Picard has precious little of that. The way the officers behave and speak in nuTrek could be pulled straight from 2023’s Twitter or TikTok feed. A changeling “pot” weed joke? Shaw’s behavior in the holodeck towards Picard, not fresh after losing Jennifer Sisko and Wolf 359 mind you, but 30 years later and after Picard has shown he wasn’t in control when violated by the borg and saved the Federation multiple times over. And now the founders (changlings) smoke cigarettes and behave oddly as well.

They had Jean Luc himself drop the f-bomb, so eager were they to finally do that. And “remove yourself from the bridge. You just killed us all.” Riker is lucky Picard didn’t shoot him thinking he was a changeling, so cringeworthy and out of character that dialogue was.

Yesterday’s Trek writers had far more talent.

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Realshow t1_jbpuwxa wrote

Apparently part of the reason it didn’t pan out was because he couldn’t figure out how to distinguish Fred from Peter Griffin. Not that he wanted them to be similar, he genuinely didn’t seem to know Fred acts nothing like Peter to begin with. That should tell you everything.

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