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FernandoPooIncident t1_jaehbg5 wrote

> First two episodes were, and then viewership tanked.

That's simply factually untrue. The Nielsen weekly figures were successively 1253, 1203, 988, 977, 966, 988, 1137 and 570 million minutes. Hardly "tanking" (especially considering that the first two episodes dropped at the same time, so the first week can be expected to have more minutes watched). But I realize this sub constructs its own reality.

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AlbertoRossonero t1_jaeh8fr wrote

I’d agree if it was on merit alone but the Emmy’s seem to always nominate at least one show from each major production company. Stranger Things, Madalorian, and Euphoria aren’t Emmy worthy shows imo but they got nominated because they’re very popular shows from major streaming services.

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sprainedpinky t1_jaeh3wi wrote

It’s terrible lol. Terrible writing, super slow pace to start, and the story feels randomly slapped together. They made Galadriel as a naive stupid girl instead of the wise badass elf that she is supposed to be. Overall terrible show for people who love Tolkien’s work.

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tomc_23 t1_jaegxb1 wrote

Losing Axe was inevitable eventually, albeit the timing and how it eventually came about were infinitely more tragic with the death of Helen McCrory. Even though (much like another Damian Lewis series) I think Billions should've ended long ago, I'm glad he's coming back towards what will (hopefully) be its end.

The introduction of Corey Stoll's Mike Prince was a solid enough remedy to losing Axe, although I think the season's overarching story and somewhat too-late criticism of billionaires left the series without a very clear sense of purpose or place; it spent too long painting its characters as flawed themselves, but doing nothing to criticize or otherwise caricature their ridiculously wealthy lives like, say, Succession does. More than that, it went the opposite direction, painting the Axe Capital cast of characters as universally "cool" (excepting 1-2 Big Bang Theory-style "nerd" caricatures written in later); they like "cool" things, drive "cool" cars, and the entire cast speaks fluently in that Billions-patented shorthand of "cool" references (to make you feel "cool" too whenever you recognize the reference), even though sometimes the dialogue feels like Sorkin's zippy West Wing walk-and-talk writing--but if Martin Sheen, Allison Janney, and Bradley Whitford were constantly trying to work references to Steve McQueen and Paul Newman movies into literally every exchange about foreign and domestic policy.

I really enjoyed the Mike Prince arc of the most recent seasons, especially early on when we're as skeptical and in the dark about his goals and motives as everybody else in the cast; I wasn't a fan of the outcome, but I think at the beginning the idea of basically an anti-Axe who appears genuinely preoccupied with using his wealth and resources to improve the lives of others and his community was inspired. He couldn't replicate Lewis'/Axe's presence, so they didn't even bother trying, and somehow managed a delicate balance between slowly winning the cast (and audience, by extension) over to his character's seemingly utopian "vision," while still acknowledging his god complex and major flaws as a person/husband/etc.

That said, I think bringing Damian Lewis back has a lot of potential, but could just as easily topple things just as this new version of Billions had found its footing. At the very least, it will be good to see Wags' reaction. I still think the series should've ended with like, the second/third season (honestly, maybe even the first, if they'd left it a little less open-ended). Like with Lewis' time on Homeland, I think it could've been a phenomenal character study as a limited or even anthology series, but it's still been solidly entertaining and certainly doesn't wast such a talented cast.

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hannahbaba t1_jaegi2o wrote

There are a lot of good episodes in seasons 1-2, but I’ve always felt like the writers strike forcing a shorter season 3 was hugely beneficial. Made them cut out any filler and focus more on the larger plot.

Season 3 also gave us Ghostfacers, so on that alone it’s my favorite.

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Squirrel09 t1_jaeggzy wrote

Their plan and pitch for the series has always been a 50 episode / 5 season run.

Also, kinda a unfair statement seeing that the big budget streaming genre is relatively new. The only streaming service that has been around for long enough to have 5 seasons of something is netflix. And they have The Crown & Stranger things. Amazon Prime has Jack Ryan that is coming out with their 4th season.

Hulu, while being one of the first streaming service, never really went for the big budget original show strategy.

Most streaming services are less than 5 years old!

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Hibbsan t1_jaeffrw wrote

Honestly i disagree. While it obviously went downhill after season 5 we still got some amazing and fun episodes along the way up to season 15 that we would have missed. Like my all time favorite one "The French Mistake" in season 6. Just that episode alone makes Season 6 worth watching.

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