I had an idea for a podcast, I’m sure it’s been done already but I haven’t found it, where I’d go through shows like the ones you listed and add some others like Black Donnellys and Kings, and kind of do a recap/history. Similar to the Blank Check format. Spend a few episodes recapping the show, talk about production, etc.

But I don’t have the time or skill to make it work. Maybe some day.

To this day you see people posting “what happened” in the finale and the show incorrectly. What they post directly conflicts with what is actual said in the finale and shows that they don’t understand the show. Anyone that understands the show and reads other people takes on the internet knows exactly what I’m talking about without looking at the spoiler text. I’m prepared to say that it’s the wrongest take of all wrong takes. I see supposed “media journalists” and reddit threads espousing this take to this day, and in my book it instantly discounts them from ever having an opinion worth reading. It is honestly mind boggling how these people get to their conclusion.

If you want to know their incorrect take: >!these people think they were dead all along and the island was purgatory. They outright tell you in the final episode that this is not the case, and the only instance of purgatory in the show is the season 6 flash-sideways realm. Everything else happened while they were alive.!<

Hence why I said streaming ratings. Point being, TROP was very popular, but not talked about widely online. It was also preferred by "older" viewers (adults 25-54) to HOTD.

Assuming the flashback episode is - independently, on its own merits - a good episode, then I would say that right after a major event in the main plot is the perfect place for it. It allows the audience to take a breather and reflect on the impact of the big event on the characters. It works. I suppose that's how the pattern became a trope.

When you get to the end make sure you have enough tissue for your tears

RoP didn't beat HotD overall, though. Higher streaming, but those figures didn't take into account the roughly 2mil viewers watching on HBO proper. Factoring the ENTIRE viewership into account RoP was the one getting whooped each week.

Beard after Hours was superb and I’ll not listen to anyone who disagrees.

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Prolly actually the best television show in history.

Probably one of the best shows to binge. I would suggest giving a day in between seasons. There’s a lot to digest and fun to theorize on your own before diving into a new season.

Don’t worry about the ending or the dialogue around it, enjoy the stories surrounding the cast and the mysteries as they untangle.

The thing that really struck me about it - and made it feel way too weird for Network tv - was that for a clearly biblically infused story, it doesn't really feel like it's trying to sell you a "message" at all. It feels like what those mythologies would feel like to the figures in them. When weird shit happens to you, personally, in the Book of Samuel or whatever, you just have to kind of roll with it, because you live in a world where God himself crowned the king you're paying tax to. It's not a fable, just matter of fact.

It's unusual, because it feels like treating the human, political bible stuff the way shows usually prefer to treat all the angels and demons stuff, or like a big Viking saga or something.

The Simpsons

Seinfeld

Cheers

30 Rock

With runner ups:

Family Guy/American Dad.

They won't and they aren't going to get that money back. Other than the reports on how much money this was costing, I have rarely seen this project even acknowledged since it was greenlit back in 2019. It has rarely been acknowledged as a project to look out for in 2023 or acknowledged by Amazon. I heard about The Rings of Power and Daisy Jones for months and months.

I find it hard to believe that Amazon considers this a crown jewel at this point and their most promising program. They seem to be starting the PR from scratch.

Amazon Studios is listed as a producer, not just a distributor. I don't know why you're so desperate to pretend that Amazon had limited involvement, but you're flat out wrong.

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There was a handful of shows from 2008-2012 that would have done better in 2022 on a streaming platform.

Stuff like "Awake", "Flashforward", "Caprica", "Dollhouse", "Party Down", "Terminator Sarah Connor Chonicles", "Pushing Daisies", and even "Jericho" though it was earlier than the rest. I remember shows like "Shark" and "The Event" too had some buzz but also had concepts better suited for binging on a streaming service.

Does anyone know if they ever revealed why the character Andrew Cross was exiled?

I think the best quote from the oral history is in the footnotes: "Jeff Zucker did not respond to a request for comment" lmao

The Russos did a fantastic job on Infinity War and End Game, not trying to take anything away from them as I think those two films are an incredible achievement, but most of that money came from the franchise. They've got two of the highest grossing films ever, not because of their skill as directors, but because they filmed the MCU season finale.

Cameron will dream up his own 2 billion dollar movie for you from scratch. I didn't even think the new Avatar movie was all that good, it was okay, I had fun, nothing special. But I'll still go see the next one, because I'm guaranteed a proper cinema experience. Cameron guarantees that, and the audience know it.

Good for him. The dude is funny and talented and clearly he has a Fanbase that loves. It just sucks he’s not doing cooler projects. I know a lot of that is self imposed. He picks his own projects and he’s been busy touring the world but I would love to see him on Hulu or HBO, or even at Netflix doing something in the style of the last OG or Dave.

All of these episodes were filmed and likely done with most if not all post production well before the first episode aired.

This was always planned and has nothing to do with the success of the show.

everybody? Are you really acquainted with everybody?

Rogue

It's a weird juxtaposition of a network show with a prestige cable/streaming show.

Ambitious and unique premise, decent production values, Ian McShane acting the hell out of everything, and some really interesting plot points. Running directly into network budgets and network trope plot points. There are episodes with incredibly good and aggressively bad writing all in one.

I remember listening to the director commentary for the pilot with a few producers and Ian McShane. They recorded it for the DVDs long after the show was cancelled and wrapped. McShane said he got talked into it by the show runner because it was going to be better than typical network tv drivel. Then McShane keeps saying "should've been on cable, this was too good for a network, should not have been on a network," for the rest of the commentary haha.

Haven't read the article yet but looking forward to it. This is such an odd little known show that I never see enough discussion about.

Last season of Jack Ryan really became 'Dad TV'. Just the stuff your dad tells you about