I never said I want them to achieve brilliance, that was specifically in relation to TNG. I just want them to compel me enough to keep me watching the next episode.

> There are plenty of people out there willing to give a story time to develop, since most of the greats don’t become great immediately

Not anymore, as shows are cancelled more and more early, and it's no a recent phenomenon either. At least today's streaming shows have one full season in the can before they're cancelled. Others before didn't have that much chance and were cancelled after a handful of episodes. And that was before, as you put it, "we run back to our phones and social media for that sweet serotonin."

And again, the problem is that there's too many choice now and time is limited. Sure, when all that's on the air is Magnum and Hunter, I would have gladly waited for a show to develop because frankly there's nothing else to watch.

In the 3 months time period where you have Atlanta, Andor, The White Lotus, The Crown, Wednesday, House of the Dragons and the Sandman being released, you also have several hundreds of other shows premiering (including some as high profile as Rings of Power or the Yellowstone shows). You can't honestly expect people to give their chance to each of these shows and blame people for their failures.

Carnival Row got hit by covid more than most, I wouldn't blame Amazon for that one.

Variety seem to think differently. They have Amazon taking international rights to a “BBC show”.

does PBS have their content on a streaming service? I can't remember watching any PBS content for decades.

It isn't like the old days where they were one of the 4 channels on the antenna so they were a cultural institution. I can't blame them for taking risks to try and stay relevant in the changing landscape.

I disagree, it's first episode might fall into that category but everything else was just okay. To each their own.

That doesn’t make it good tho, accuracy doesn’t equal quality

Massive failure.

Lucy, Michael Scott, Jake Peralta and Ron Swanson.

can we get him here in the US!!?? he’d be perfect!! we have two polarizing co-hosts and it’s not working out. it would be great to have someone more universally appealing.

and now, the fanboy bullies will chime in about how Ken is soooooo amazing and then downvote. lame.

It’s very similar to The Leftovers

Dude, me too!! Just started it last week and already in season 6

I could never get into this, even though it has a real cult following. Not as well written as people suggest imo.

Sorry, that’s not what I meant. I mean I see people all the time say what happened but it’s not really what happened. Trying to not spoil.

I still say Fringe was his better show but Lost is still a damn good watch.

The other commenter gave the correct answer I think - critical/audience reception kinda tapered off.

And water-cooler show, I meant more like Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon, White Lotus, Last of Us, Ted Lasso, Stranger Things, Yellowstone kinda. Shows that have a strong social and cultural impact - Amazon has been trying hard to get something like that (most notably Rings of Power) for some reason despite their resources can’t seem to make it happen.

I really liked I think it was season 1 and 2. Or just the start was mad dog. It did drift of later on into crazyness tho but still not bad.

I loved the ending, but your assumption that people who didn’t like it also must not have understood is wrong. I’ve known people who liked it and who didn’t like it, but they all understood it. Such is life that people have different opinions about subjective pieces of art.

Yep Piers Morgan will be on heavy rotation

Okay, let me preface this by saying this is one of those, "I know a guy..." stories, so I don't blame anybody being skeptical of what I'm about to say, but I swear, I do know somebody who was involved with Jack Ryan at Amazon, and they are currently working on another Clancy project elsewhere. Long story short, Jack Ryan was dead before the fourth season was even announced as the final one. Hell, it was dead before they even started filming season three. It was a shitshow behind the scenes and John Krasinski is difficult to work with. They fast-tracked seasons three and four to shoot basically one after another because Krasinski wanted out of the show to focus on his directorial career. The odds of him popping up in any other Clancy-related media as Ryan are pretty low.

As for Amazon owning the Clancy "franchise," I don't think that's really correct considering Michael B. Jordan's Rainbow Six movie is in development with Paramount (who unceremoniously dumped Without Remorse to Amazon in the first place), and the Splinter Cell animated show is going to be on Netflix. The Terminal List was a much bigger hit for Amazon than Jack Ryan, and seems like it probably cost Amazon a good bit less overall, too. Between that and The Boys, I do wonder if Amazon is starting to look more adapting newer IP instead of chasing legacy franchises, since most of their endeavors on that front (Jack Ryan, Rings of Power) haven't really been the shows driving people to their service, despite massive marketing campaigns.

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If you want to watch a show about this industry, you're better off watching Mythic Quest, or Catch and Halt Fire.

It felt like someone got a pilot greenlit and didn't know what to do next.

There is no evidence to support that claim.

I hate how everything needs a million spinoffs nowadays. Especially before anything's been put out.

Awful final season, amazing finale, imo.

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