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TJ_McWeaksauce t1_j9jo1zl wrote

>I feel like Pedro Pascal has shown us what a better version of Rick is.

They're entirely different characters.

Joel from The Last of Us is a man whose humanity died at the very beginning of his world's apocalypse. He stopped trusting people and he stopped loving. For 20 years, Tess was one of the only people he had a lasting relationship with, and it was lopsided — she loved him, but he didn't love her back.

The only other important person in his life is his brother, Tommy, but Joel chased him away and made him move to the other side of the country, which is no easy feat when the country is filled with fungus zombies and raiders.

Joel has basically been dead inside for the entirety of his post-apocalypse. He's killed innocent people in order to survive, and he doesn't show remorse for it. His relationship with Ellie is his chance at redemption, and also his chance to finally be at peace with a trauma he experienced decades before.

Rick is the opposite. He didn't lose everything at the onset of his apocalypse, because his wife and son were still alive. He had something to fight for beyond survival.

Immediately after reuniting with his family, Rick took charge of the group of survivors they were with, because Rick is a natural leader. Throughout the series, he's gravitated toward being a leader — he's been the leader of multiple survivor communities, and even united multiple, separate communities into a network that traded and protected each other. This is in stark contrast to Joel, who's antisocial, distrustful, and avoids people as much as he can. Rick is almost always surrounded by people, and he kept adding to his family of survivors, whereas Joel works best alone or in a pair.

Rick's story is one of struggling to maintain one's humanity during barbaric times. Joel's story is one of regaining one's humanity during barbaric times. The characters are different, their stories are different, and the only real similarity between them is that they're both living in a post-apocalyptic world and they're both good at violence.

They're even different physically. Joel is broken both inside and out — he's not as fast or as strong as he used to be because he's getting old, and he's gone partially deaf. Does Rick have any chronic physical issues? I don't think he does.

Saying Joel is a better version of Rick is like saying pizza is a better version of salad.

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Roook36 t1_j9jmtzm wrote

I do feel like I should warn you that The Last of Us game series does have violence against animals. Especially in some pivotal scenes that I do expect to show up in the series. Not a bunch but at least one scene for season 1.

There's a website called doesthedogdie.com which is a database of sorts where people can enter in violence towards animals that occurs on shows to give others a heads up, which might help researching other shows as well

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ThePizzaMan100 t1_j9jltxa wrote

> So far I’m enjoying The Last of Us and the acting is great, but feels like they’re already having a hard time filling the season out, so it feels like people are just into it because it’s above good.

I think the difference is that the “filler” episodes in TLOU is still full of great character moments and amazing production design. Which is what TWD lacked for the most part in their filler episodes. The Bill and Frank episode for example was amazing.

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ThePizzaMan100 t1_j9jlbdb wrote

> I feel like Pedro Pascal has shown us what a better version of Rick is.

I don’t know about that. While I love Pedro as Joel, Lincoln is also amazing as Rick. He was the main highlight of TWD. It’s impressive how he managed to consistently give amazing performances even tho the writing took a nosedive in after season 5.

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Lil_Mcgee t1_j9jji56 wrote

> It's why the first two seasons are regarded as the best of the entire series

Not so sure about this. I defend season 2 of TWD but it was fairly heavily criticised when it came out and still doesn't have the best reputation to this day due to the (not entirely unfounded) perception that it is drawn out and tedious.

Losing Darabont definitely did a lot to hurt the show's vision and set the stage for the inevitable decline. That said I think if you asked a group of people (let's assume they've seen at least the first 6 or so seasons) to rank their favourites I would expect to see most people place S4 above S2 and frankly I wouldn't be surprised to see S2 at the bottom of many lists.

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IndyRevolution t1_j9jghz7 wrote

Maybe just don't record the audio on the boat like a lunatic?

It's because he refuses to do ADR like a sane person. Aiden Gillan talked about how he knew he was going to be mocked for the plane scene while he was filming it because he asked Nolan's DP "Are they gonna ADR us?" and the DP said something like "Oh no, Nolan would take that as having done the scene wrong." So the actual scene has the audio all fucked by plane noises and awkward line delivery.

My source is this interview, of which I can't find the full VOD for, but here's a snip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgOCCi8VQO0

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