Sure, but it's not believable that tiktok's user base is 80% kids and 20% folks over 90 years old. There's going to be a normal distribution curve and the mean and median will be close together in this case.

I don't know anyone my age that doesn't use Tiktok

I would pay apple to hire me and work in that circle. /aj

I say this as someone who has made a fair bit of money on stock options; they are generally a scam. I’ve seen plenty of people sell their company for options only for the value of the stock to remain below the strike price for years. I’ve known people who ended up selling their company to get a desk job they hated in exchange for options that were literally worthless.

Companies don’t do stock options because they’re a great idea for workers. They do them because they’re complex enough that most people don’t understand them and it sounds like a lot of money, when it might actually end up being nothing depending on the performance of the company’s stock.

Have you ever asked C-suite executives at a startup to show you their cap table when they start talking about their “generous” options? They usually shut up in a hurry when they realize that you actually understand what they’re talking about.

Your interests don’t align with theirs. They’ve pulled you in by stroking your ego and convincing you that they’ve given you something special. They haven’t. They gave you something of highly variable value because they figured you were too dumb to understand its worth.

When considering offers from companies I consider stock options to be worthless, because statistically speaking that’s usually what they are.

No the average age is meaningless because kids lie about their age on the internet. I haven't used my real age in the decade or so I've been spelunking through the internet I can almost guarantee that hasn't changed with the new generation.

sure but since we're here, let's take TikTok down first coz, communism (or in close proximity to one). Meta is shooting itself in the foot anyway.

I don't think this is about that.

They built a gorgeous office purpose built for people to bump into each other at random to collaborate.

Fine to disagree with their philosophy, but if they're paying you to do a job and expect you to be in the office and you say "no" then don't expect to keep your job. You're basically telling Apple that you aren't a good cultural fit for the company.

I think some roles can be remote, but I'm also a firm believer that people being in the office leads to better team work and innovation. There have been plenty of times in my life where I've struck up a conversation with someone outside of my circle and it ended up with something great. Had I been remote, it may not have occured to me to talk to that person because other than seeing them in an org chart, I may not even know they exist.

That makes sense, but is still kind of mind boggling. Thanks!

>some organizations within the company say failure to comply could result in termination

Absolutely insane of a policy. Apple has periodic employee review periods where each employee is rated and calibrated against their peers. You are judged on the impact you delivered; not necessarily how you delivered.

Forcing some teams to go to the office is absolutely insane. If some people are not efficient from home and decide to work form home, then deal with this as a performance problem. Otherwise, let people work.

And that’s 150 million voters they better not screw with. And if they only knew more liberals get banned and have videos pulled than conservatives.

Man, you're so smart! Why didn't all those folks in HOAs simply not be in one!? If only geniuses like you ran the world, we'd all be so much better off. Thank you for your service!

According to world bank in 2022 the US consumer market is bigger than China + EU + Japan put together (converted to USD). A lot of Chinese people are still relatively poor. Spending/saving habits are quite different between Americans and Chinese too.

They certainly don’t care about me. I certainly don’t care about them.

However, at times our interests align. Silicon Valley does this via stock options ( previously never given to the rank and file) and the results over the last 30 years has been remarkable.

Ah, I see. You’re one of those petite bourgeoise who thinks that you’re somehow special. We’re not. The fact that I’m a high income earning software developer involved a series of lucky breaks (and admittedly many years of very hard work). But if we replayed my life with a different random seed then it’s just as likely that I never would have made it into this field.

We’re just people. You’re not special, and I’m not special. We are fundamentally still part of the labor class because we exchange our labor for money. If your labor stops being useful then you will be discarded.

Our labor laws give far too much power to the capital class, and you’re deluded if you think they care about you. Rights for workers benefit us just like everyone else.

You can tell yourself that you’re somehow part of the elite because you work in tech, and you can pretend that this means you’re somehow part of the aristocracy if that makes you feel special. But you’re not. You’re just like everyone else. The problem is that you think that’s an insult.

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With 150 million people it’s becomes very normalized and the average is closer to the median.

Can’t compare a sample of 10 to 150 million.

Yes the average and median are different but the median is still near whatever they said the average was.

>They invested a lot into office real estate and if working from home becomes the new normal, it has no resale value.

This is the big one that I see. I work with several tech companies throughout Nor. Cal. The ones that have big, grand offices (and are also not able to downsize/sell/lease) are all the one hammering on employees to return to work. Other companies that have many offices, so combo buildings are the ones reducing their real-estate footprints and promoting hybrid. It's becoming a "we're screwed, so you're also screwed." Whereas others are, "hell yea, lets shed some buildings, save costs."

I think we all agree with that. If congress actually cares about privacy they would be passing laws to protect us from ALL social media companies. But that’s not what is happening here because our congress runs on lobbying and Meta is hustling to get this killed.

One thing I don’t understand, maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject could explain. From the article:

> they’re still hopeful that they can bring their products to the U.S. — the only consumer market in the world larger than China.

How is it that China has over four times the population but a smaller consumer market? Is this just some very specific definition or am I missing something?

Howdy folks, we're an American company. We eat apple pie and watch football.

My point is that instead of raging at Apple ( or other Tech companies) for changing the WFH policies , maybe see all the other benefits they’re giving. The main benefit is a massive paycheck. If that’s not worth it, find another company that offers WFH or employs you in your preferred location. Related , I honestly don’t think that a college-educated staff engineer making 250k+ has the same interests and can be lumped into the same ‘Labor’ bucket as the guy picking Strawberries in Salinas.

Why won’t they release an iOS/Android app?

They work for apple pretty sure they can

You can for an app or a single system, but you're not going to change the entire world which already tracks literally everything you do.