The bad guys don't care about bans.

> Look, I’ve clearly struck a chord here.

No, that internet tactic doesn't work with me, either.

> I’m not out here saying Microsoft is making the correct decisions, but the core of my position is that Sony did, and continues to acquire studios to boost their portfolio

No, you are saying that it is okay for Microsoft to do a anti-consumer move because you CLAIM that Sony does such anti-consumer moves all the time.

You are trying to say that Sony has established this practice already.

You are wrong, dishonest, and greatly exaggerating this.

> I’m not trying to diminish whatever these studios have done post acquisition, but in another 2 decades it’s incredibly likely Microsoft will have fostered similar success.

Really? Take a look at the state of the Halo brand.

You are now claiming that Microsoft is buying Call of Duty, Diablo, Warcraft..............to IMPROVE upon them and take them to new heights in terms of success?

That's laughable.

Microsoft is trying to CORNER A MARKET. Anybody with half a brain can see this from a mile away.

They started by buying a $7.5 billion dollar publisher, which is more than twice as large as any gaming acquisition Sony has ever made. And then the very next year they announced they are spending ten times that amount to buy an even bigger publisher.

These are the very first and second moves that a corporation makes when they are trying to corner a market.

Except I wasn't wrong, I had already created a category that already explains that. So I admitted that it should've been in that category.

It was accounted for.

You're trying to too hard to throw it out, because...........you don't actually want to argue the whole details of your claim.......because you know your claim is vastly wrong and dishonest, and exaggerated.

And you know that the more I get you to delve into your claim, INTO THE DETAILS, the more wrong you look.

Hence, you're trying to find a way out, quickly, right now.

Ah, like I said, you're clearly very humble about being wrong on both fronts.

Inferring that it will be right at times too, but it’s up to you to figure out whether or not it’s right. But people are stupid, and will assume it is right, especially if it confirms something they already believe. Either way, it will spread misinformation because people will believe what they want, and if it happens to say something they like, those people will assume it is correct. Without something saying “oops, that information was incorrect, please disregard that,” we are left with a misinformation spreading machine, which makes sense if it sources from the internet, the ultimate misinformation machine.

Literally all car manufacturers said they’re gonna stop making gas cars. Charging infrastructure is still being worked on. There’s a lot more chargers than you might realize

To visit some fam, I drive to places that barely have any gas stations. I doubt charging stations will just miraculously pop up. Unless there’s some mass initiative to update infrastructure in rural and remote areas, im ok paying for a good ol gas guzzling automobile.

Look, I’ve clearly struck a chord here. I’m not out here saying Microsoft is making the correct decisions, but the core of my position is that Sony did, and continues to acquire studios to boost their portfolio. They are not some bastion of building their entire business from the ground up, that’s my point.

I have owned every platform since the N64 and PS1 (and plan to continue to do so) I have watched this go down over the last 2 decades. I’m not trying to diminish whatever these studios have done post acquisition, but in another 2 decades it’s incredibly likely Microsoft will have fostered similar success. So what if you lose a couple games on your favourite plastic box? Buy both of its really an issue for you. The real issue here is exclusives are bad for everyone in general, and both have continued to push the divide further.

Google and Microsoft’s shitshow

was too wordy

Well you soon will be forced to cause that’s all there’s gonna be

Holy shit CNN is going to be out of a job!

Did you miss the part that I clearly called them a port-house from the very beginning?

> Could absolutely be robbing the industry of other remasters like that for Xbox.

Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhat? Have you actually played Metal Gear Solid 2 Sons of Liberty on the Xbox?

You're joking right?............you're basically saying that you're not taking this discussion seriously. Right?

>Number of games that were "taken" from you? 0

Did you miss the part about the Metal Gear port? Could absolutely be robbing the industry of other remasters like that for Xbox.

> Blast Factor

Which means they belong in the second group.

There you go, there's my humility, right there.

In other words, lemme repeat the final sentence of that bullet point.

Number of games that were "taken" from you? 0

That's a Sony published game from the get-go. In other words, Sony has already been doing business with Bluepoint since their very inception.

> They now own both IP’s and are free to do with them as they wish

So you just immediately went and moved your goalposts.

Did you think I wasn't going to notice that you just did that?

You literally asked me "show me where they are changing the parameters"

I went and showed you.

And then you just casually responded ".........as it is their right to do so"

You just proved my point, as to why they shouldn't be allowed to buy out Activision.

> And I’m sorry but Starfield being expected to launch on PlayStation was not confirmation of anything. You can’t claim it was lost when marketing material never said it was coming to PS5.

It was clearly a multiplatform announcement, since they were a multiplatform developer/publisher having a press conference for all of their games, which were multiplatform.

You attempting this legalspeak isn't going to dismiss basic common sense. When Todd Howard is saying this is his next major IP, its meant to be alongside Elder Scrolls and Fallout.

Games and Franchises that are multiplatform, and HAVE BEEN multiplatform for a while now. The expectation is more than obvious.

So..........to answer your question, they never permanently control FF7, because they didn't buy out the IP outright.

Which is what Microsoft is attempting to do with COD.

Correct?

This would also be a deal that Microsoft could make with Square-Enix, but chances are Square-Enix wouldn't make such a deal because Final Fantasy is an important IP in Japan where they expect to sell many copies of the game, and Xbox has almost no presence in Japan.

> O and speaking of them permanently buying things how do you think a lot of their studios came to be? They bought them!

Actually, they helped create almost half of them, to make games that they were publishing. In other words, the correct terminology would be that Sony helped create "second-party" studios that would later become "first-party" studios once they released a successful game, and Sony wanted to continue working with that studio.

Microsoft/Xbox is NOT doing that.

Activision is already successful and independent by itself.

Microsoft is trying to buy them, outright, to take control of already successful and powerful gaming IPs.

That's like one guy trying to assemble a baseball team, and scouting for good players, and developing them to become really good.

And then another guy goes and buys the New York Yankees.

And you're telling me "iT's ThE sAmE tHiNg!"

>Bluepoint Games doesn't make video games, never has. They are a porting studio. They are a contractor that provides a service. The number of games that have been "taken" from you because of this acquisition? 0

Can't even get past the first bullet point without you being completely wrong on all fronts. They made Blast Factor. They also were responsible for porting Metal Gear Solid HD Collection to the Xbox 360. I'm sure it'll be fine though, you seem like the type who will humbly admit you were wrong and move on.

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>Most of the work that software engineers do has been done before. It’s all just web forms and fairly simple algorithms (yes I am over simplifying).

You're describing coding, not software engineering or software design.

By the way, I did look at those 21 video game studios.

Just to be clear, let's state the reason WHY you felt like telling us about these studios. You are trying to make the claim that Sony "took something away", correct? That something existing in the gaming space, and by performing a business acquisition, Sony "took something" away from the gaming space.

I believe we can both agree that you are trying to say that, in order to say that what Microsoft is doing is "no worse than things Sony has already done." Correct?

Let's start by shrinking that list down by pointing out studios that they "acquired", that don't actually make games, or have no existing games to be taken away.

• Bluepoint Games doesn't make video games, never has. They are a porting studio. They are a contractor that provides a service. The number of games that have been "taken" from you because of this acquisition? 0

• Nixxess also doesn't make video games. They are also a port studio. Number of games that have been "taken" from you because of this acquisition? 0

• Haven Studios.......has yet to make a video game. This is a completely brand new studio, created by Jade Raymond. It was funded by Sony. So, has Sony "taken" anything from anyone? Nope. This is a company they help found.

• Plumbee, as far as I can tell, has never created any video game in the traditional video game space. The only company profile I found for this company says that it created "social casino games across all platforms" and the website www.plumbee.com (or .co.uk) isn't even working. This listing may be obsolete.

• Valkyrie Entertainment. Appears to only be a support studio that "assists developers and publishers in creating content and assets." They have existed since 2002, and this is the list of games in which they have worked on, that I was able to find. As you can see, these are all games in which the core development and creation comes from other studios. It appears that this studio creates graphics and art assets, either for a video game or for marketing used by the publisher. Number of games taken away from this acquisition? 0

• Savage Game Studios. Has not made anything yet. Their founded members were people that "had a hand" in Clash of Clans and Angry Birds. According to this article, they were founded in 2020, but were acquired in 2022 by Sony's Playstation Studios Mobile Division to "which will focus on creating games based on new or existing Playstation IP." So either they pitched a new IP, or they are being assigned to work on an existing IP, whatever it is its going to be fully owned by Sony from the time the game releases.

So, we're already down to 15.

Now, lets talk about studio "acquisitions" in which they were funded by Sony from the very beginning in order to produce a video game that was pitched to, and bought by Sony........from the very beginning.

In other words, none of these games were ever designed or funded to be multiplatform IPs, the IPs were purchased/owned by Sony from the very beginning, so that they would be published by Sony:

• Incognito Entertainment. This studio was the studio set up by David Jaffe after he was no longer part of Sony's internal studio that created the Twisted Metal series (989 Studios). Their first deal to publish their very first game was with Sony. And that's because David Jaffe was going to continue making more Twisted Metal. So, in other words, the studio was formed to continue working on an existing IP that Sony already owned. After Twisted Metal Black was released, Sony bought out the studio, and had them work on other Twisted Metal Games, and make Warhawk before the studio was dissolved, since they all left to go form Eat, Sleep, Play. Number of games taken away? 0

• Sigil Games Online. This is a studio that was created after Sony Online and their subsidaries created EverQuest. They actually were in a deal to publish their only game, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, with Microsoft, until that publishing deal fell through. Without a publisher, they went back to Sony to publish the game. And it was never designed for Playstation, it was a PC-only release. So Sony actually helped save this game in 2007 so that it can release on PC. The game came and went without much fanfare, the studio hasn't accomplished anything since.

• Media Molecule. Members from Lionhead studios went to Sony to pitch the concept for LittleBigPlanet in 2005. Sony gave them seed money to form the studio in 2006. They made a deal to fund the development of LittleBigPlanet, to be published by Sony. The IP of LittleBigPlanet would be owned by Sony from the very beginning. Once the game released, Sony bought the studio.

• Firesprite. These are ex-Psygnosis/Sony Liverpool employees. They spent their first few years working on spinoffs of existing Sony IPs. Run Sackboy! Run! is a game based on LittleBigPlanet's mascot. They developed VR games for Playstation VR. They did create and publish their own VR game, called The Persistance, for multiple platforms. And they continued supporting the game for the new platforms in 2021. They were fully purchased by Sony to work on Horizon Call of the Mountain in VR.

• Lasengle. They appear to be a Japanese mobile game developer that was spun-off from a Japanese media company. Their first game appears to have been a very big hit game in Japan, called Fate/Grand Order. The game was published by Sony Music Corp. for Android and iOS, and then came to arcades in Japan. So they don't even make traditional games, and the type of games they do make were being published by Sony subsidiaries this entire time.

We're down to 10 studios, now?

From this point forward, these remaining studios ACTUALLY HAD GAMES that were conceived, created, and published without any noticeable involvement from Sony.

And I'm going to try and list these actual games, so that maybe you can give me an honest assessment of what you think has been "taken" from you and what you believe has been taking away from the general gaming space.

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how can AI be confident about their information? Bing does state that information may not always right.

??? What? They bought timed and console exclusively for the FF7 remake so PC players got it later and Xbox gets it never, and it looks to be a similar deal with FF16.

O and speaking of them permanently buying things how do you think a lot of their studios came to be? They bought them!

They now own both IP’s and are free to do with them as they wish. The Outer Worlds 1 still exists on PlayStation. The sequel did not enter production until later. Quite simple.

And I’m sorry but Starfield being expected to launch on PlayStation was not confirmation of anything. You can’t claim it was lost when marketing material never said it was coming to PS5. The business world does not run on expected to’s. This is the simple objective truth of it. I’m not saying it’s right, but that’s how it is. I expected Silent Hill 2, FF, and Octopath Traveller 2 on Xbox. Doesn’t mean anything.

While your cherry picking examples, explain why it’s any different that Final Fantasy, a franchise that has long existed on Xbox, is now not getting any new mainline entries thanks to Sony continuing to pay SE to keep it off the platform? Or does this behaviour not count when it comes from a market leader?

What will art look like in 100 years, when it's just AI copying AI copying AI copying AI...copying AI copying artists from today? Because many potential artists will eventually stop learning art, because people will stop paying for art after AI drops the value they place on it. Sure, some artists will keep their crafts alive, because actual human art will be prized by the wealthy, but the number of paying art jobs will fall over time. Back to the old days of patronage.