Yeah I just can’t get emotionally invested in the NBA. The amount of player movement just blows my mind - losing your two best players, mid-season! Just absurd.

And then combine that with the huge amount of regular season games that means any individual game doesn’t matter all that much…

It’s a very different experience if you’re coming across as a fan of most other sports

As usual, everything the NFL does is lip service and we keep gobbling it up

Man I miss that team, DLo, Caris, Harris, Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen, RHJ, those guys were fun to watch.

Good game, my friend! May your beers be ice cold this Sunday. Cheers.

But westbrick just ain’t a winner, it’s not in his blood. And harden either, harden just a stat hoe who can ball but he’s not a winner, I don’t think if they all stayed together they’d have a ring with okc

That is odd, how the MLB has done very well in that regard. It definitely makes the nba look even worse by comparison, with how little loyalty there is. Both from the franchises and the players.

Once again you have some very solid points.

However, luckily we both played Football for a significant period of time. That is why our perspectives are somewhat similar, even though we don't agree with each other 100%. I do not subscribe that CTE is a blanket issue around the entire NFL. High impact situations are apart of the sport, and they are now tackling in a manner that is SO WRONG that when they do impact with their heads naturally, their neck strength is so poor that a concussion is the end result, but that's an entirely different discussion.

I see we will likely not agree on that issue, but at least we are somewhat closer on the perspective that Professional Athletes are Independent Contractors, and should approach their careers accordingly.

Thank you for taking the time to discuss this matter in detail, and sharing your opinion intelligently. It was great meeting you, and I wish you all the best in All that you do, and shall the Sun shine on you and your Family for an eternity.

God Bless.

First, I never even implied that they shouldn't make money from their name. Second, they aren't making money from their name, in most cases their names mean nothing. If you are just going to pay a kid money to get him to come to your school don't try to blow bullshit up our asses by saying they want their NIL rights - they want them to PLAY. Call it booster cash, pay-to-play, free agency, etc., because no one is paying these kids to be in their commercials or for their likenesses.

Combined with the transfer protocol, small schools are losing players at an incredible pace, which includes players that they took a risk on to develop. And you can say good for the players, but the popularity that college football is built on is having a lot of competitive smaller schools. We are going end up with just be a handful of schools with big boosters paying 300 players on their rosters (because who cares about scholarship limits when players are making more in NIL than what tuition costs). This is essentially how it was before scholarship limits, and college football had a limited audience and was very regional.

I know this is going to be super unpopular, but when looking at loyalty and the different scales of it, I feel this is one thing which baseball has nailed, tons of homegrown stars, Judge, Trout, Acuna, among others. But you still have the big free agent splashed and big trades, i.e. Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Giancarlo Stanton, Jaun Soto. In the NBA at this point, players move around so often there’s no point getting attached to anything, it’s all very tenuous and players force themselves out of teams all the times, which just makes contracts feel unimportant.

I know this is going to be super unpopular, but when looking at loyalty and the different scales of it, I feel this is one thing which baseball has nailed, tons of homegrown stars, Judge, Trout, Acuna, among others. But you still have the big free agent splashed and big trades, i.e. Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Giancarlo Stanton, Jaun Soto. In the NBA at this point, players move around so often there’s no point getting attached to anything, it’s all very tenuous and players force themselves out of teams all the times, which just makes contracts feel unimportant.

The NFL’s divas are mostly confined to WRs and DBs. I don’t think there’s anyone out there legitimately comparing NFL players to NBA players in terms of diva-ness; it’s just so obviously common in the nba that’s it’s ingrained into the culture of the sport (flopping to draw fouls being common, etc).

Don’t get me wrong, WR’s and DB’s can diva with the best of them. Guys like cam Newton too. But it’s more of an exception in the NFL whereas in the NBA it’s almost expected unfortunately.

The NHL has essentially no personality ever and never has, so, frankly, it could use some more divas. You know you’ve got a problem if the player with the biggest personality in your league is Brad Marchand. Or for fuck’s sakes, the league could learn how to properly market their biggest stars but they haven’t done that properly since the days of Mario I think.

I guess what I’m saying is, it’s about balance

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And it’ll probably be worth it if they get a championship. Nothing guaranteed about that though

It is a fair argument to say that professional athletes should not be entitled to long term care by the league or their teams. I disagree, personally, but it is a legitimate argument to make.

From my personal experience however, I believe you underestimate the level of injuries sustained by professional athletes in the NFL. I played in college, and by that time, most football players have been in the game for over 10 years. The amount of time spent in physical therapy, especially toward the end of the season, is often equal to time spent on the field in practice. These guys leave the trainer with sometimes 10 ice bags attached, and they cant even buy a beer yet. I believe it is completely accurate to say that with the very rare exception every player leaves the sport with some level of CTE. Again, this is only my personal observation, but I count myself among those who have been concussed countless times while playing football.

Lastly, I don’t fully agree that first responders is an apples-to-apples comparison. The NFL and its franchises are massively profitable. For the players, this was often their only shot at leaving a tough upbringing, whereas team owners were frequently wealthy to a degree. They are certainly making a huge profit compared to even their biggest players, and all without potential body harm.

Individual contractors are not courted out of high school with dreams of grandor, nor are they made into celebrities. Athletes are not pushed to study finance, they are pushed to get stronger and faster. Their well being beyond their skill on the field is not of concern to the franchises who benefit from their effort - and this is where i find a moral disconnect.

The right thing to do would be to protect their health during and after their time in the NFL.

He’s probably still hall of fame, even if I can’t stand him

NBA Record holders HATE this number one trick!

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GameDay finds local crew by putting up fliers in the theatre, film, and journalism departments at the schools they visit. Might be different if the venue has an IATSE contact, though.

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Yeah it's horrible that athletes can make money on their name rather than the NCAA and universities keeping it all. Come on, now. Change is hard but it was ridiculous that everyone but the athletes were making money from their skills

Isn't 0.25 Simmons shots attempted per game?

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It also misses the point and directs you to a misleading statistic (less than a dozen out of 10,000).

That statistic does not address the issue of the insurer’s conduct in specific cases. For example, a case where they fought and fought against a good claim and ultimately caved would fall into one of the 10,000.