Facts. The NHL couldn’t market a superstar if their fucking lives depended on it.

Who could’ve guessed a multibillion dollar franchise would treat people poorly

> median individual income in the US in 2022 was $46k, likely with bad/no benefits at that kind of salary, likely with a work schedule/environment that is going to increase long term health issues. in two years, an NFL player on the literal minimum salary possible grosses more than what the median worker makes in 30 years.

You don't have sympathy for them, okay, fine. Does that mean they should get screwed by the NFL plan that they thought provided them coverage? No, of course not. No one should be screwed by health insurance, it doesn't matter how much they make.

> i'm arguing "duh, why wouldn't they deny every claim they can?" that's how they make money.

I made that argument as well, in the first comment of mine you replied to. I'll quote it since you seem to have missed it:

> There's no question that insurance companies make more money when they deny claims, so it's in their interest to do so, which automatically makes them biased against people filing claims.

13-3 baby!

Haha. I know this is sarcasm but I actually looked it up and he shot 18 over his career and made 1.

I bet Kareem would have shot a lot of 3's /s

Please. Irving was not an MVP-caliber player. I don't think he will ever be.

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You can't request for Loyalty from the players if the Organizations/Teams themselves have no Loyalty to said players.

Plus, there's the fact that Organizations have squandered the primes of multiple superstars. The Timberwolves and Kevin Garnett comes to mind. OKC and KD/Russ/Harden/Ibaka is also another example of a squandered core, since management was too cheap to retain Harden.

>Part of the problem here is that many of them aren't millionaires. The average career span in the NFL is four years, and most of them do not get signed to those multi-million dollar contracts we're always hearing about.

"rookies with zero years of service will earn a minimum salary of $705,000."

median individual income in the US in 2022 was $46k, likely with bad/no benefits at that kind of salary, likely with a work schedule/environment that is going to increase long term health issues. in two years, an NFL player on the literal minimum salary possible grosses more than what the median worker makes in 30 years.

>And I responded that my health care insurance rarely decline claims. You asked, I answered. Maybe you've had a different experience, and that's legit, too, but then I'm not sure why you asked the original question, which was in response to the NFL plan declining a lot of seemingly legit claims.

Because every claim denied increases profits, and insurance companies are businesses? I get that you haven't had any claims denied, but the more claims they successfully deny, the further they go towards accomplishing their goal. as long as healthcare/insurance stays a for profit system, this will be the case.

NFL players should use their platform to promote nationalized healthcare/insurance programs if they want my sympathy. i'm not arguing that no claims get denied unfairly, i'm arguing "duh, why wouldn't they deny every claim they can?" that's how they make money.

Oh, there are already numerous clips from today of people falling over drunk, and its not even noon lol Good old Scottsdale!

Most Texans are vaccine deniers and anti science so he’ll fit right in.

It’s a soap opera for 13 to 30 males

Where does he rank for flailing his arms and crying about no calls?

I’d say it’s more the Wasted Management open in my experience.

What’s the point to follow a team too, everyone just follows the players at this point almost.

“I was in every gang. There was about 5. I was in all of em. Whichever one was winning, that’s my side, cause I wasn’t fighting for shit.”

-Richard Pryor/Kevin Durant

Part of the problem here is that many of them aren't millionaires. The average career span in the NFL is four years, and most of them do not get signed to those multi-million dollar contracts we're always hearing about. Even if they come out of it with perfect health, most of them are going to have to continue to work to survive the rest of their lives.

Also, I ranted about our health care system elsewhere in this thread so don't go assuming that I think the current system is fine.

Finally, your original comment was:

> do many companies think like this?

And I responded that my health care insurance rarely decline claims. You asked, I answered. Maybe you've had a different experience, and that's legit, too, but then I'm not sure why you asked the original question, which was in response to the NFL plan declining a lot of seemingly legit claims.

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Lol if you don’t like basketball that’s fine but the product has been pretty fun this year

The problem is that they're not willing to miss games like other sports have. In 2011, they caved right after the HOF game was cancelled. In 2020, I can understand why they'd agree quickly with the oncoming pandemic, but they could've done a shorter-term deal.

tbh without going into details of my life, that's really great for you. IMO, we should have nationalized healthcare/insurance so that everyone can have that same luxury. until rich NFL players start arguing for me to have the same healthcare as them, i'm not going to feel bad about millionaires who had to work for a few years to retire not having the benefits they feel they deserve.

I mean, it’s the nature of the beast. When I’m working on a show, I’m an employee of that production company until the movie or season is over (4-6 months for a full run) then I’m on to find the next one. Many of us who work in these careers, that’s one of the perks of the job. I have the freedom to do a TV show or a movie or a commercial or a music video. I run with several circles of guys but rarely do I have the same coworkers from show to show. I like that, but it’s absolutely not for everyone

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I thought he was comparing Kyrie to Pippin the hobbit.