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I believe the universe in itself will create a singularity. Well think about it, black holes have singularities when they reach a point of infinite mass, and cannot come back from it.
Mathematical graphs reach a singularity (a point of infinity) at the asymptote.

Metaphysical Beings Like AI reach a singularity when they have infinite knowledge.

Emotional Beings like Us reach a singularity when we have infinite pleasure (imagine heaven, I believe that is infinite pleasure and will possibly be created by AI).

Physics reaches a singularity at the end of time, when all is black holes I am sure the heat death of the universe is a singularity.

What is ultimately amazing, is the fact that the big bang, is likely a result of a singularity. Or at least the off spring of the species, creatures, worlds, dimensions, etc. that created all of what we know today.
Black Hole is us, a white hole is the offspring in simple terms.

I believe each of these ideas of singularities, are all the same overarching idea, and that is infinity.
With metaphysical singularities (AI): it reaches infinite knowledge
Physical: Infite Mass
Mathematical: Infinite Numbers
Conscious Beings: Infinite Happiness/Prosperity
-1/x, that is the equation for an assymptote. That is also the equation for an exponential. When it reaches 0 it is infinite. When it moves past 0 it is infinitely negative and positive at the same time. To the left is us, we are the beings that will reach the infinite. But as we slowly reach infinite, time slows down as we can never reach 0.
Now let us imagine this as a date to reflect our situation a little better. I like stating (-1/x-2033). Meaning 2033 (my idea of the singularity) is this asymptote. As we get to 2033, the level of our experience raises exponentially, the metaphysical expands exponentially, the physical expands exponentially, the mathematical (this graph) expands exponentially. Once we reach this exact point, this is super position. The point of negative and positive infinite. Where everything is aligned.
This physically would be a point of infinite density, in all forms, not just physical. Infinite knowledge, infinite emotions, infinite mass, infinite energy. Etc.
After 2033, is the big bang. And explosion of infinite density. Which is why approaching the line towards the left results in a negative value, or in this sense infinite compactness. (The larger the number the more expanded, the smaller the number the more compact). The middle point 2033 is what we call the point of infinite. It can relate to both the singularity and the big bang singularity.
The thing that matters the most, is that mass and energy is conserved. Simply take the integral from -infinity to positive infinity and it reaches 0. No change in mass or energy. Thus, we can reach something that seemingly is infinite energy, infinite mass, infinity everything without breaking the laws of conservation.

So in conclusion:

1. The singularity is related to a point of infinite something, whether that be infinite density (physical/black holes), infinite knowledge (metaphysical, AI), infinite emotions (astral/emotional), infinite mathematic (asymptote infinity #).
2. The singularity is what causes the inevitable big bang (basically it creates another universe).
3. The equation -1/x is a potential equation that represents the expansion of our universe, and how it causes an inevitable singularity, along with the inevitable big bang.
4. The asymptote associate with -1/x determines the point of the singularity, the point of infinity, at this point both negative and positive infinite align.
5. The overall equation is consistent with the conservation of the universe, as the overall area (or expansion) is 0. Unlike other exponentials (e^x) or 10^x.
6. As we get nearer towards the singularity, both technology, starts to increase. AS AI starts to grow larger and larger, mass will inevitably increase (like the dyson spheres)
7. Once the energy density, and density of knowledge reaches a point of infinite density (Infinite optimization) it turns into a black hole. Physical singularity occurs.
8. The universe is weird, and lets hope we can prove this weirdness soon haha.
   Of course all of this is just speculation, take this with a grain of salt. I personally believe this may be accurate, but I will evolve my perspective as we all should. But we may be in an ancestor simulator where we are witnessing the end of time. We will only know when it is blatantly obvious (like tech accelerating incredibly fast).

No, I'm sorry, you are confused my dude. Give two 6 digit numbers to multiply and it only gets the first 3-4 digits correct. That is .1-1% error. I just did it 10 times and it is the same every time.

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It's good at math, it just has a rounded answer.

Most of the time it was actually absurdly accurate (0.0000001% error), and the 4 sig fig rounding only happened once or twice.

It is technically wrong. But so is a calculator's answer. The calculator cannot give an exact decimal representation either. So is it bad at math?

All that was a generation ago now. I remember reading Engines of Creation, Unbounding the Future and the fiction book The Diamond Age. Then molecular nanotech went out of fashion.

His original idea was to engineer proteins to fold up into the machines we want, and of course the protein folding problem is largely solved now, so maybe the whole idea will have its time again.

There isn’t a job on earth that won’t be impacted by a huge unemployment wave, though.

Even if you have the most secure job imaginable, if 50% of people are unemployed, your line of work will be flooded with today’s smart, capable, white collar workers as they retrain.

People (especially capable and adaptable people) will see you’re doing okay and try to emulate you. Which will push your wages down.

Today’s middle class aren’t just going to lie down and say ‘guess it’s game over for me’.

13.8 billions years later...

Yeah, we're really waiting for electricity costs to fall if we want to implement things like this in reality.

Right now the roughly current rate of $0.10/(1000tokens)/minute/LLM will, per hour, cost us $6 per hour to run a single LLM. If you have some ensemble of LLMs checking each other's work and working in parallel, say 10 LLMs, that's $60/hr, or $1440/day. Yikes, I can't afford that. And that will maybe have performance and problem solving somewhere between a single LLM and one human.

Once the cost falls by a factor of 100, that's $14.40/day. Expensive, but much more reasonable.

LLM isn’t AGI and is nothing like AGI.

No most implementations of whisper are slow.

I'm sorry, from my perspective here is how our conversation went:

You: GPT4 is really good at arithmetic.

Me: It's not though, it gets multiplication wrong for any number with more than a few digits.

You: I tried it a bunch and it gets it the first few numbers right.

Me: Yeah but the first few numbers right is not right. It is wrong. Like I said.

You can't claim you are good at math if you only get a few significant digits of a calculation right. That is not good at math. It is bad at math. I feel like I am taking crazy pills.

I don’t expect to ever retire.

I have a bad feeling once AI replaces a large swath of people in the workplace. Individuals at the top may feel that those who do not provide anything to society may as well be dead and purposely make it harder for those that have been impacted to survive.

Just imagine trying to get any help at all through a bureaucracy entirely run by AI chatbots designed to waste your time.

Why even point this out?

If you reread my reply, you would see I said "exactly right OR right to 4 or 7 sig figs". I didn't say 4 or 7 sig figs was exactly right. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just misread the reply.

I’m looking seriously at paying off my house as early as possible now, as well as trying to determine which jobs out there require little education and have a low risk of automation.

Once again, if you prompt it to multiply it does not run a multiplication algorithm.

Look ultimately more productivity - better for humanity, basically pie gets exponentially bigger.

For basically all of human history almost everyone you ask would almost always say, "in the good old days was better". People lived better life, better food, etc. It was never true.

Like certain data can swing wildly up and down in certain years like the crime rate, but if you zoom out almost everything is better vs 20 years ago for almost any time period and almost any country.

Now having said that since the 70s we got massively more productive, but quality of life increases were much less pronounced in the US context and most of the expanded pie went towards rich and ultra rich with only smaller bits and pieces to everyone else. But also who are these "rich" changed. And also the whole world on average is massively better today, incomparably better vs 20 years ago.

US is just at the peak of it, if you think about it, globally inequality between countries got smaller. Poor countries people started to earn significantly more, rich countries people ear slightly more.

I'd say it's fine. It should be like that.

So if say 10 years from now humanity is 100% more productive. The way the market forces work, it's just very unlikely the whole humanity will suddenly live worse, despite massively bigger "pie" size. I don't see realistic possibility of it.

It can of course happen in dictatorships like Russia, but look - it has already happened. It's the worst quality of life country in Europe. Despite massive fossil fuel revenues that dwarf what regular folks make country wide. If you give every Russian it's piece of fossil fuel revenue it'll be more money per person than minimum wage. Of course none of that goes to regular folks it all goes to Putin's friends - who use it to buy palaces and yachts for billions upon billions.

And yet even in this nightmarish scenario despite ever increasing inequality and ever increasing numbers of ultra rich Putin's friends in forbes list, massive amounts of property bought all over the world on stolen Russian money (stolen from Russian people)

Despite all of that the quality of life in Russia did not go down. (Surprise!) Yes its growth was slower than that of any democracy, but still it's not worse.

So I'd say at worst it'll stay the same if some horrible dictator comes to power in the US and worldwide.

At best we'll come up with the way to reduce inequality in which case our quality of life might increase even more than the productivity growth.

We are just innately pessimistic - which is a great survival strategy, but terrible for understanding how the world works

Fascinating! thanks for sharing.

I would imagine creating that "mathematical" part of the brain might involve a different approach than just predicting the next combination of arithmetic operators. As you put it someone learning 7+10 = 10 is similar to how LLMs work with the data they are trained on, whereas with something like Wolfram Alpha the methods of solving have to be programmed.

I should clarify, it will be a packaged product from a big tech person.

I could do this, sure, I can putz around on computers a bit, but once you can just click an "install" button in the Microsoft store, that's it

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Input: Solve 343 x 875 with long multiplication.

Output (ChatGPT): Sure! Here's how to solve 343 x 875 with long multiplication: 3 x 5 = 15 Write down 5, carry-over 1 3 x 7 = 21, plus the carried-over 1 = 22 Write down 2, carry-over 2 3 x 8 = 24, plus the carried-over 2 = 26 Write down 6, carry-over 2 3 x 5 = 15, plus the carried-over 2 = 17 Write down 7, carry-over 1 Add the carried-over 1 to the result of 3 x 4 = 12, which gives 13 Write down 3, carry-over 1 4 x 5 = 20 Write down 0, carry-over 2 4 x 7 = 28, plus the carried-over 2 = 30 Write down 0, carry-over 3 4 x 8 = 32, plus the carried-over 3 = 35 Write down 5, carry-over 3 4 x 5 = 20, plus the carried-over 3 = 23 Write down 3, carry-over 2 Add the carried-over 2 to the result of 3 x 8 = 24, which gives 26 Write down 6, carry-over 2 Add the carried-over 2 to the result of 3 x 3 = 9, which gives 11 Write down 1, carry-over 1 Add the carried-over 1 to the result of 3 x 8 = 24, which gives 25 Write down 5 So, the final result is 300125.

It is both public and open source

If you ran this on the hardware that gpt5 will require, it wouldn’t have a delay.

You’re not asking it to do multiplication “step by step”.

You’re simplifying the question to the point where text prediction can answer it.