Life changes and evolves. AI will think of ways to keep you working.

Some people were. There was the us government, the Russians, the Chinese and then the aliens oh, and sasquatch was there.

>with chatgpt, i couldn't even imagine being a student now being forced to waste my childhood in an environment akin to a fucking jail doing shit i knew was pointless and not applicable to the world as it is now, much less in 5 years.

I think school is more complex than that, on average, IMO.

You had to be there

It's a long story

That's the messed up and ironic twist. While to us it sucks.... by MOST metrics, at a societal level it's the best time to be alive yet.

For any factor where it was truly better in the past, that time frame where that factor was better had massive drawbacks.

If something like that were to happen we’d still be pretty screwed with our current socioeconomic structure. We rely on power to move and do - any collapse of our current grid would be massively disruptive, regardless of if AI removes the need for individuals to work. If something like a solar storm knocked out AI, we’d still be missing most of what we needed to go back to “the way things were”, unless “the way things were” refers to pre-industrial life.

Its just really big and we aren't important enough to contact

How is that reasonable? Even if there is this God mentioned and depicted accurately, how do you know there is no fabrication to leverage those stories for one’s own good? And there is also no guarantee of reward for follow through the instructions given.

The creation story could be similar across many religions and cultures but the interpretations are mostly man made imo. I don’t believe that an entity that is powerful enough to create the universe would care the slightest one bit what any of us would think of him. The separation between humans and ant may not be comparable to a god and us but we don’t really care what any ant think or do or believe.

A human like god or a creator is possible but every lessons, belief system, or ritual attached to it is so superficial imho.

>How many new ways can you imagine to entertain yourself?

>Can you imagine for one moment a world in which you were able to take certain people you didn’t like and make them live out unspeakable tortures?

Maybe i’m missing something, but I’m having a hard time figuring out what the relationship between these two sentences is.

Other : it happened million of years ago, we are in a history sim

Math is hard for people too, and I don't think GPT 4 is worse than the average person when it comes to math. In many cases, math requires abstract multiple step processing which is something LLM's typically aren't trained on. If these models were trained on processes rather than just content, they'd likely be able to go through the steps required to perform mathematical operations. Even without specific training, LLM's are starting to pickup the ability to perform multiple step calculations, but we're obviously not all the way there yet.

Nothing changed for me. My estimate for the first wave of unemployment waves is not enough for me to worry. Besides, if democracy fails to find a solution, we have bigger things to worry about.

We're not lucky because the governments aren't ready to act on these sudden changes so the coming years will be very difficult. We would be lucky if we were past that point.

I have no idea why people think UBI is inevitable. Elites do not like to give free stuff to the poor.

Most likely wages will go lower and most of us will be working in manufacturing and farming since white collar jobs are much cheaper to automate using AI than robotics needed to automate manufacturing.

In fact my hunch is: investment in robotics will go down once labor become more cheap and factories prefer using cheap humans.

For how long? How long till you do the thing to the best of your abilities until that thing becomes none. How many new ways can you imagine to entertain yourself? Can you imagine for one moment a world in which you were able to tale certain people you didn't like and make them live out unspeakable tortures? Because I can. So what if we become subject to so cosmic future? What if we already are? Created just to prop up their status? Little achievements they have taken up along the way. Buried under the separate failed achievements that crowned another's life.

While I understand majority of what you’re saying and agree mostly with it, I think that UBI may look like natural path, but in reality it will be really hard to achieve. Even for most socialist focused countries in the world, making UBI feasible is a feat close to a miracle. I believe that we’re going to end up mid way to dystopian future where majority will have no jobs and will generate alternative job markets where they’ll work for food and scraps, while the corporate jobs and super rich will have AI and enjoy majority of the benefits from it. Unfortunately, I really don’t see how we end up with UBI soon after AGI (or even before it as it might become necessary). Also, another thing is, not every country will develop UBI models as fast as everyone thinks. We’re still super fragmented in the world, we can’t decide on one simple thing like borders of countries or removing them completely, let alone implement UBI on civilization level. I’m pretty sure USA won’t even be among the first ones to do so. UBI will come eventually, but it will be decades before we implement it, and I fear that those decades will be one of the worst times in human civilization time.

That delay kills me, far too long. I'm guessing gpt5 will have to be multimodal with sound so can recognise words and doesn't need to process into text

> less well paid than they’d

FTFY.

Although payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:

• Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.

• Payed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.

Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.

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Yeah.

The people that are going to lose their jobs - white collar workers - are not going to just sit around being unemployed. They will shift in to other work, probably less well payed than they’d like. The people previously in those jobs will then suddenly have more competition and will be forced to take jobs ‘below’ where they were previously…and so it goes on. Essentially, people will be forced to go down a rung on the ladder and the people right at the bottom will be pushed off.

I think what we’re likely to see at first - rather than a sudden glut of unemployed white collar workers - is wage stagnation and more unemployment ‘at the bottom’. There will be a lot of people taking on jobs that are way lower paid than they’d had previously, or been expecting. And there will be a palpable feeling that it’s getting more and more difficult to get work as there is increasing competition. We’re going to see a lot of general dissatisfaction with work.

The need for UBI will likely become apparent only gradually. This is all depends on a slow take off mind.

Actually doing things I enjoy!

I think that makes sense, though I was more wondering why we think what we do about this specific situation.

On the other hand, most progress and advancement is combining ideas. What combinations have we not considered?

They had a common descendent so I don't think it's reasonable to assume this is the only way to reach higher intelligence. Your sample size is one (planet)

It seems like they are capped out by the data they receive, so by their nature they are going to be as smart as the collective human race, but not smarter. I think it's unlikely the singularity comes from this current approach.