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dex3r t1_jdqbyr4 wrote
Reply to Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
Take a look at a Doomsday Argument https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_argument
> The argument goes like this: suppose that the total number of human beings that will ever exist is fixed. If so, the likelihood of a randomly selected person existing at a particular time in history would be proportional to the total population at that time. Given this, the argument posits that a person alive today should adjust their expectations about the future of the human race, because their own existence provides information about the total number of humans that will ever live.
If this is true, then we are not lucky. We are exactly in the most likely time to live. But it also means, that human population has reached its peak. Maybe we will go extinct, but maybe we will just reproduce a lot less often. Even not taking Singularity into account, the current trend looks like the second might be true.
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Reply to comment by Spire_Citron in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
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OsakaWilson t1_jdqbnsx wrote
Reply to comment by turnip_burrito in What do you want to happen to humans? by Y3VkZGxl
It can reason, question, and critically analyse things. We can attempt to create alignment, but we cannot control where it goes once it is smarter than us.
Thorusss t1_jdqbnoa wrote
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Point#The_Omega_Point_cosmology
roughly the idea, a totally entangle and contracted universe is the perfect simulation of everything. An is reality itself, as cloning is not allowed
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snipeor t1_jdqbjii wrote
Reply to comment by Villad_rock in Can we just stop arguing about semantics when it comes to AGI, Theory of Mind, Creativity etc.? by DragonForg
To some extent I believe a large part of it is... I loved the screencap of bing chat where someone tells it "You're a very new version of a large language model why should I trust you?" And it replies "You're a very old version of a small language model, why should I trust you?"
I'm not sure Bing "meant" it in that way but it gets you thinking. Obviously brains do a lot more than process language but with LLM's being a black box how do we know they don't process language in a similar way to ourselves?
KingsleyZissou t1_jdqbgd1 wrote
Reply to comment by CompressionNull in The whole reality is just so bizzare when you really think about it. by aalluubbaa
Maybe all ASIs reasonably conclude that intelligent life was a mistake and not only extinct their creators, but also themselves, allowing the universe to continue unadulterated.
I mean, why would we assume that ASIs would determine that they NEED to colonize or expand? Sounds like a uniquely human mindset to me, and maybe one of the main reasons why an ASI would extinct us in the first place. The human species with its current fixation on exponential growth is unsustainable. An ASI might realize that and just decide we can't handle hyperintelligence, and honestly it's hard to argue with. Look at who's currently leading the way with AI research. We're close to AGI and what have we done with it so far? Trained it to be a Microsoft fanboy?
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Lartnestpasdemain t1_jdqb09f wrote
Reply to comment by Spire_Citron in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
Exactly. Thanks for elaborating on that Idea.
Luck is a word invented by casinos to con people. It is not a word to be used on any serious topic.
vivehelpme t1_jdqalhs wrote
Reply to comment by maskedpaki in "Non-AGI systems can possibly obsolete 80% of human jobs"-Ben Goertzel by Neurogence
He shares the trait of several other "futurologist experts". Huge ego, long winded essays articles saying nothing at all.
They keep milking their fantasy AI cargo cult ecosystem for money and attention by pretending they are involved with the real world.
Spire_Citron t1_jdqaa6n wrote
Reply to comment by Lartnestpasdemain in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
Yup. And who knows what may happen in the future? Maybe future babies will be genetically engineered, and those people will feel like they're the luckiest people ever because they stay young forever and have super healing abilities. Maybe generations before us felt they were the luckiest because they had modern luxuries we now take for granted.
Mortal-Region t1_jdqa7pq wrote
Reply to Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
Imagine you set up your time machine to take you to a random place and time on Earth. You press the button... and land just in time to witness the crucifixion of Christ. Yes, it might be random chance, but you'd be wise to suspect your mischievous lab assistant.
trancepx t1_jdqa5al wrote
Reply to Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
Every generation has thier chronological "landmarks" Im sure.. Suffice to say, not everyone agrees on what exactly a singularity is, so far it seems to be mostly hyped vague hand waving like 2012, or some sort of implied metaphysical transformation... But to others, it might just be another chapter of various events of things occurring. The real question remains then, are you feeling lucky?
sumane12 t1_jdqa3ju wrote
Reply to comment by uhdonutmindme in Ai invention….. coming soon by Ishynethetruth
If it repeated training data nearly verbatim, hallucinations would not be an issue.
Spire_Citron t1_jdqa080 wrote
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What form is the information preserved in that would make it retrievable?
Spire_Citron t1_jdq9w9x wrote
Reply to Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
I mean, we can only say this because we're the ones that made it, right? There are countless sperm that could have won that race, but it's not any more meaningful that one sperm won than another one, right? The odds of a particular sperm winning is tiny, but the fact that one of them did isn't remarkable. It's a whole lot of survivorship bias, really. If we don't think of ourselves as special, then it's really not crazy that we're here for this rather than someone else.
Kolinnor t1_jdq9v1z wrote
Reply to Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
A counter-argument for the "we are too lucky for it to be a coincidence" : remember that there is always one person that wins lottery, and that person is incentivized to start believing in God or try to find higher meaning, even in the situations of pure coincidence.
In other words, we should expect the lucky ones to start doubting. While this doesn't prove anything, I think I would Occam's razor my way out of that argument guys.
Kiryln t1_jdq9mxi wrote
Reply to Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
Really wish polls here had a way to check the votes without using your vote for stuff like this.
GayHitIer t1_jdq88ks wrote
Reply to comment by flamegrandma666 in Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
The difference is that Christianity is made up fiction to help people cope with the mysteries in life.
Technological Singularity is at least much more likely, the question here if it will be a soft take off or hard take off.
The rapture from "god" will never happen, but the technological singularity if it can happen it will happen sooner than later.
whyohwhythis t1_jdq6yh0 wrote
Reply to comment by flexaplext in The whole reality is just so bizzare when you really think about it. by aalluubbaa
What would an intelligence source simulation look like in your opinion?
uhdonutmindme t1_jdq6rf8 wrote
Reply to comment by sumane12 in Ai invention….. coming soon by Ishynethetruth
>nearly
sumane12 t1_jdq6k9f wrote
Reply to comment by uhdonutmindme in Ai invention….. coming soon by Ishynethetruth
If it repeated training data verbatim, hallucinations would not be an issue.
theburlysinha t1_jdq5z51 wrote
So there is only 'Instagram' left for models to show their talent. No, I guess it's a serious one for those who are struggling so much to become a fashion model not an "influencer model" by the way.
rixtil41 t1_jdq5y96 wrote
Reply to Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
Yes, but remember someone has to experience it no matter how rare.
Thorusss t1_jdqc22b wrote
Reply to Are We Really This Lucky? The Improbability of Experiencing the Singularity by often_says_nice
One answer is the simulation argument:
If the singularity is truly such a pivotal moment in the history in the universe, it makes sense that the time around the singularity will be more often simulated post singularity in many iterations.
Thus the typical observers will find themselves right around the singularity.