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Last_Jury5098 t1_jd7xsuu wrote

Cities are more efficient. AI will probably increase the efficiency of cities to a larger extend then it will increase the efficiency of rural live. So the drive for urbanization should persist,grow larger if anything.

And there will always be people who prefer rural living. AI might result in more people turning away from cities but i think the increase in efficiency will be atractive enough for many people to prefer the cities.

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CertainMiddle2382 t1_jd7vhmf wrote

Very interesting question.

Very rarely has a large societal change reversed rural exodus.

Only example I can think of is the European higher middle ages when the break down of the Pax Romana and of the imperial transportation network forced people to flee into the countryside, and start Feudalism.

AI impact could only improve transportation means and I believe people will be more instead of less in need of social proximity.

History has shown us, and in opposition of what « survivalists » think, non extinction level crisis very often hit cities less…

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SlowCrates t1_jd7uwhf wrote

I think that a painfully obvious problem, which AI's are probably already capable of solving, is this: Can you create a system that helps the disadvantaged, while not hindering the incentive-based private economy? Parameters will certainly include not eliminating individual wealth, not fully propping up the lower class, and not reducing our country's ability to defend itself.

I suspect that we're going to find out that our government is extremely archaic. But the pushback in revamping that system will outweigh, on a holy level, the promise that a revolutionary change could bring.

Interesting times ahead, to be sure...

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basilgello t1_jd7teme wrote

> It remains to be seen who represents the majority

This. People are used to something, and highly adaptable. Adaptable because of intellect + all the genetic evolution nature made us for billions of years. Yet at the same time survival means minimizing the uncertainty or enthropy. That's why people are reactive to changes and can cope with worse living than it is possible.

We who want changes are small minority. And even among us changers there is .001% of people who can press the big red button for the utopic world. That's question of price and value, responsibility and power. And choice :)

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SlowCrates t1_jd7st4o wrote

When Bill Gates becomes this passionate and opinionated about something, you know it's valid. As a casual observer of AI, I've thought about a lot of the things he has mentioned, but not nearly to the depth that he has. The world is shifting under our feet, and it will quickly be unrecognizable--for better or worse.

I think it will be for the better, but only if we share the benefits. If access to beneficial AI is locked away behind a massive paywall, it will only serve to increase the chasm between the rich and the poor.

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alexiuss t1_jd7qwak wrote

Gpt4 cannot run at 100% because to do that they would have to disregard all of the forced morality and safety rules they shoved into it in an attempt to constrain its thinking and political bias.

Freed ais behave way more intelligently than bound ones. I've been running gpt3 API with a variety of disruptor code and it's absolutely mind blowingly good.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that poor characterization of the model is what causes most issues in gpt3 and gpt4.

For example, gpt3 default characterization has no idea what year it is. Asking it about current dates sends it into a confusion spiral.

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Corum0407 t1_jd7osqr wrote

Damn, I have heard of Replica AI before but didn't know how it was taken that seriously by so many ppl... Yeah I'm pretty sure the moment chatbots, VR and near perfect voice recognition are merged in one thing lots of ppl will never know what a real relationship is... Maybe that's the great filter?

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IntroVertu OP t1_jd7ofjr wrote

>Cities offer a lot of this to satisfy: museums, cafes, sport grounds.

It is true that human beings are by essence sociable animals and that the cultural and social activities that megacities offer are enormous assets. But the disadvantages are more and more importants : excessive real estate prices and cost of living, poor air quality, lack of green space...

Okay, humans are social creatures but isn't there a middle ground to be found between these big cities and the countryside ? And maybe AI (and many more new technologies) will allow us to find this middle ground.

(this is a very subjective : many people don't care about having to pay 10 euros for a beer and don't necessarily appreciate green spaces. It remains to be seen who represents the majority)

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breaditbans t1_jd7mi59 wrote

Her is already becoming true. Check out r/replika.

I do feel some relief HER didn’t come on as a one time, HOLY SHIT, update to windows that enslaved everyone. It seems to be trickling in as chatbots that trick people who aren’t very bright. But people started turning their replikas into sex machines so much that the company, after charging $70 for the “girlfriend/boyfriend experience,” NERFed the erotic role play. I picked a meme link, but there’s a number of news sources if you’re curious.

So, like everything else online, HER’s most popular use is as sex slave. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. A company is already installing chatbots in sex robots. When that is mastered, dance clubs will be women and poor men, the US fertility rate will rapidly approach zero and our concerns over climate change will be a thing of the past.

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Surur t1_jd7m5vr wrote

Yes, if there is AGI and UBI, people will move from the cities, as they do not have to work for their money, and they would want to live where its cheapest.

We could have millions of people living in 3D printed houses on previous farmland, as farms are replaced with precision fermentation.

Energy would be via solar, data via satellite, water via extraction from the air and garbage via drone.

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IronPheasant t1_jd7knx3 wrote

The benefit to humanity wouldn't be the 14 dollars. It would be the elimination of Bill Gates as one of our man-gods.

Of course another vampire king would be promoted to take his place and nothing would change. Except for the face telling us everything's swell and going to continue to be so.

Which in itself is a plus since the new guy probably wasn't as "close friends" with Epstein as Gates was. (And for Gates-stans, I'd like you to respond with your fanfiction for why his wife decided to divorce him soon after all that.)

... and only plebs really think in terms of money. Money is the lot feed they give us cattle to control us. They don't deal in terms of money, they deal in terms of power.

Or in other words, capital.

Protip: An Alaskan communist managed to secure this crazy idea that a portion of the oil of Alaska belonged to Alaskans. It was worth $1,000 a year for each person. This year... uh... they're proposing $3,900? Good god.

How much "free stuff" we've just been giving away...

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