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redbullkongen OP t1_jczm5ly wrote
Reply to comment by TinyBurbz in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
It's the feature, no one writes sh*t anymore since journalism is replaced by AI Technology, just get use to it..
zifahm t1_jczjfd6 wrote
Reply to comment by zifahm in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
What we want is more tecnology and better standard of living, not impressing our bosses or teachers.
zifahm t1_jczj9vx wrote
Reply to comment by TinyBurbz in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
I'd never understand the argument for memorization. If you are using an Excel spreadsheet, u'll clearly won't do stuff via hand and also the formula is neither memorised.
The mere notion of getting stuff done and getting the answer correct using a tool seems largely offensive to PPL.
I'd say if a person does not need to learn to compute maths that can be done by an external computing machine, the he or she can invest his brain power in more difficult tasks.
This just shows the faliure of our schools where more complicated subjects are not introduced early and easy things like calculating stuff by a calculator taught early.
I'd recommend teaching 3rd grade kifs general relativity with a calculator on hand and by the time they hit college they would have learned torroids and quantum mechanics. Using calculators for faster compute.
This would clearly bring more prosperity to the human society.
sorgan71 t1_jczh8zc wrote
Reply to Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
ChatGPT undermines a lot of important things about learning, it should be banned in schools.
MisterViperfish t1_jczh7zh wrote
Reply to Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
Canadian here, we weren’t allowed calculators until we got to graphing. People in my class still sucked at math, not because of calculators, but because they stopped doing most of the work. We did have calculators to take out at certain points, because they allowed for context and demonstrations sometimes. So while there were lazy idiots, I will say that for those who wanted to learn, they were very useful. Personally, I would never blindly trust ChatGPT to write an essay for me. I know I’d get caught eventually. But I might be the type to use it iteratively and ask for feedback. I type a little, feed it to ChatGPT, ask what it thinks and where it could improve. I wouldn’t consider that cheating, as feedback is the sort of thing an ideal teacher does anyway. I might get it to reword some things for me after I already typed it, and proof read it to figure out HOW it improved it. I’m still incentivized to learn this way because I get something done quicker if I can just rapidly type it out myself, but I also get direct feedback to correct my mistakes while I am still in the headspace I was in while I made them.
TinyBurbz t1_jczcw29 wrote
Reply to comment by redbullkongen in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
Wanna try writing that one yourself, OP?
TinyBurbz t1_jczcrrn wrote
Reply to comment by IronJackk in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
>Knowing how to write an effective essay is going to be useless in 5 years. Essays are inefficient ways to communicate information.
There is a reason essay writing is important, owing nothing to "efficiency"
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>It would be like teaching high schools blacksmithing when we have cnc machining.
Funny you mention it, if you want to do machining you usually start with basic metalworking; so this comparison is weak as your remarks about efficiency.
TinyBurbz t1_jczbwls wrote
Reply to comment by mrmelts in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
>they're now widely accepted as a helpful tool for students.
Only after a certain level of math.
There is a reason we have had to rebrand arithmetic as "common core math" and it has to do with the years of memorization and calculator use over teaching children how to use numbers.
TinyBurbz t1_jczbj50 wrote
Reply to Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
They were right.
Straight-Comb-6956 t1_jczaomm wrote
Reply to comment by IronJackk in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
>Knowing how to write an effective essay is going to be useless in 5 years. Essays are inefficient ways to communicate information.
Ability to express your thoughts in a structured manner is a useful skill, unless you're a wage slave at an Amazon's warehouse. Essays may be dead, sure, but the key principles are the same for any communication method.
Eleganos t1_jcz7xm1 wrote
Reply to comment by CowBoyDanIndie in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
I count myself amongst those people.
Not so much because I'm particularly special but because me and my dad brainstormed this out over our last summer vacation due to listening to the Emberverse series in audio book format while traveling between provinces in car.
We've kept on doing it for fun since and basically have a game plan ready if all of the above were to happen.
(Long story short we drive to Albert's, and since it's a food exporting province which ships a disproportionate amount out, and since another of that food couldn't be shipped out without powered transportation, it would be a prime location to easily source food.)
Honestly, probably just posting this reply since this is the only time I'll ever be able to organically bring up this game plan in any meaningful capacity online.
zifahm t1_jcz7x4t wrote
Reply to Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
I have the same issue with chess as well, why can't chess players look at their phones and get the best recommend move to defeat their opponents. The opponent has the same ability too. Also maybe add an "ask you coach or team life line as well"
Chess with AI and life lines would be way more fun than 1-1 games been done for the last 100 years
S3ndD1ckP1cs t1_jcz7o64 wrote
Reply to comment by ToHallowMySleep in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
That’s what the report button is for. What happens next is anyone’s guess.
S3ndD1ckP1cs t1_jcz7jtl wrote
Reply to comment by scooby1st in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
You think it’s trolling after you called me an idiot? How about you quit making personal insults?
I’m not soft on Luddites or Luddite-sympathizers.
Eleganos t1_jcz6tm6 wrote
Reply to comment by gangstasadvocate in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
That works for the few weeks op stated.
Assuming your actually able to do so ans don't get instantly bumped off by your local criminals and law enforcement, congrats, you've bought yourself a couple months before the local stores of food run dry.
What're you going to do a few years into this scenario when there isn't any food left to steal (at least from groups you feasibly could steal from. A fully armed military base, rich person's bunker or prepper compound does not count. )
Cartossin t1_jcz5wsl wrote
Reply to comment by TuvixWasMurderedR1P in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
I think it's only obvious when very little care is put into its use. If you just dump the homework in and paste in the output, it might seem suspiciously uncharacteristic. However, if you use specific prompts to generate specific parts of the thing you're trying to write, at some point you can make it totally plausible that you wrote the whole thing.
I should hope that a good writer would have enough artistic integrity to use it for ideas, but still construct all their own sentences.
turnpikelad t1_jcz5nuf wrote
Reply to Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
What will be the language model equivalent of the TI-84?
DowntownYou5783 t1_jcz5c6h wrote
Reply to comment by Dave_Tribbiani in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
It's pretty wild how poor adult math knowledge can be (at least in the United States).
just-a-dreamer- t1_jcz57vp wrote
Reply to Replacing the CEO by AI by e-scape
You can put in Bob as CEO and pay him 40k for signing the legal papers and play videogames all day.
The actual work of course, can be done by AI.
MisterViperfish t1_jcz4wpj wrote
Reply to comment by even_less_resistance in 1.7 Billion Parameter Text-to-Video ModelScope Thread by Neither_Novel_603
Chan: Most frequently used for girls and small children, close friends, or lovers. Essentially the eastern equivalent to calling a loved one “Babe” or “Baby”.
Akimbo333 t1_jcz1iff wrote
Reply to comment by bryceschroeder in Those who know... by Destiny_Knight
Wow! Now that's interesting!
User1539 t1_jcz0uft wrote
Reply to comment by ErikaFoxelot in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
Yeah, I've definitely found that in coding. It does work at the level of a very fast and reasonably competent junior coder. But, it doesn't 'understand' what it's doing, like it's just copying what looks right off stack overflow and gluing it all together.
Which, if I need a straight forward function written might be useful, but it's not going to design applications you'd want to work with in its current state.
Of course, in a few weeks we'll be talking about GPT5 and who even knows what that'll look like?
gangstasadvocate t1_jcyzx0c wrote
Reply to comment by CowBoyDanIndie in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
I would just go gang gang and get some food from wherever it exists. And drug consumption that’s important.
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redbullkongen OP t1_jczmidj wrote
Reply to comment by TinyBurbz in Teachers wanted to ban calculators in 1988. Now, they want to ban ChatGPT. by redbullkongen
It's always these liberals who are mad over AI Technology..