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EnomLee t1_jcwr7kd wrote

No, not really.

People who really love what they do won't give up on it just because an AGI can do it better. Many will be able to use AGI to accomplish much more than what they could've ever reasonably done as a single person.

For example, let's think of a creative person. Maybe they draw, or they write, design video games, or they can create music. Maybe the idea that AGI can make them irrelevant in their specific skills would be depressing, but they could also leverage the AGI's other capabilities to their favor. Imagine being a 14 year old kid with your cobbled together fan fiction story, and virtually having an entire animation and game studio at your command.

That's why I think that with the spread of generative AI, you will see a shift from people just producing work that only uses one creative skill set or discipline, and instead shift towards multidisciplinary media. Imagine a comic artist scanning their pages into a computer and letting the AI turn the panels into a fully animated sequence. Imagine a writer feeding their final draft to the AI and getting a full live action movie, or TV series. An artist designing character turnaround sheets and letting the AI turn them into 3D models in a game world.

You know, as I write this, I can't help but feel a sense of irony. Before generative AI became a real story, the common wisdom was that it would be the creative jobs that would be trampled by technology last, and watching Dall-E, Midjourney and Stable Diffusion evolve appeared to completely destroy that theory. However, I'm starting to believe that the creative people who can roll with the punches will still outlast everybody else, who only work to fulfill some sort of rote function to society, or just to get paid.

A trucker or cab driver doesn't have many other options if the trucks and cars drive themselves. An office worker won't be missed much if AI can get all the paperwork done by itself. An electrician or a plumber won't have much of a plan B if general purpose robots can perform their jobs. Plenty of work horse, support artists will feel the pinch too. But, the artists who have a real creative vision and finally have the tools to act on it? They'll be out there, creating entire virtual worlds. Maybe that's how the true metaverse will be born.

Well, anyway...

If the worst fate that AI inflicts upon us is challenging our personal pride, then we should celebrate. That would mean that alignment has been solved.

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Sigma_Atheist OP t1_jcwlx8i wrote

I was being a tad hyperbolic. To rephrase my argument, they shouldn't release any AI until it is capable of replacing all jobs rather than a subset. Because otherwise, the massive inequality caused by some large section of society losing jobs would lead to revolt.

Do you understand my argument now? Or are you just looking for what you view as easy pickings to let out your rage on those unfortunate enough to have you find their posts?

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scooby1st t1_jcwlu8w wrote

I think you are correct in at least spirit.

People have limited field of division. Between armies of bots on the internet and the million ways to get your dopamine off, a lot won't pay attention to it until it is a problem for them.

In practice, I hope that the pressure will still be high enough on the ruling class. Also imagine that AI available to all may even result in corporations having less of a competitive edge in some areas.

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WarmSignificance1 t1_jcwloed wrote

Completely agree. LLMs will probably plateau at some point. The end game for that approach is very unlikely to be ASI, but will be something that can do most human jobs. If we don't have any additional approaches to pursue by that point, we're in trouble.

I absolutely think that slow take off is way worse for humanity than fast take off.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jcwi9ub wrote

When Photoshop layer effects came out, people who made money from doing simple layer effects were angry. Then folks started figuring out you could utilize layer effects to make much better effects.

It will be mentally stimulating to produce movies and comics and games using AI-supplemented human work. Animations will have more frames in them just like the 2010s animation industry didn't typically animate like The Flintstones.

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