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Slow-Schedule-7725 t1_japinwh wrote

Reply to comment by wisintel in Really interesting article on LLM and humanity as a whole by [deleted]

also as to how everyone is so sure they aren’t able to infer meaning and concepts from that training- someone made them, built them. its the same way someone knows what makes a car engine work or an airplane fly, just much more complicated. i’m not saying a machine won’t eVER be able to do these things, no one can say that for sure, but LLMs cannot. they do “learn,” but only to the extent of their programming, which is why AGI and ASI would be such a big deal.

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Slow-Schedule-7725 t1_japi03f wrote

Reply to comment by wisintel in Really interesting article on LLM and humanity as a whole by [deleted]

well you may not have personally experienced them, but you inevitably will have thoughts and opinions and memories in reaction to the experiences in the book and, as a result, emotions. all these happen without your knowledge or effort and will, in some way, inform how you go about your life after reading said book. even if you haven’t personally “experienced” the specific events in the book, what you hAVE experienced will inform your reaction to and opinion of the event(s). experience is uniquely and wholly different from inference and you can’t compare human inference to machine inference- we simply don’t know enough about the human mind to do so, however, what we do know is every single experience in one’s life somehow informs every inference that we make, which, at this current moment and as far as i know, is impossible for a machine as it cannot “experience” the way we can.

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wisintel t1_japg1ua wrote

Reply to Really interesting article on LLM and humanity as a whole by [deleted]

The whole premise is flawed. The Octopus learned English, and while it may not have the embodied experience of being a human, if it understands concepts it can infer. Everytime I read a book, through nothing but language I “experience” an incredible range of things I have never done physically. Yes the AI is trained to predict the next word, but how is everyone so sure the AI isn’t eventually able to infer meaning and concepts from that training?

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EnomLee t1_japb2bs wrote

Reply to Figure: One robot for every human on the planet. by GodOfThunder101

It's very exciting to see so many companies take their shot at designing a general purpose robot. Every new competitor raises the chance that we'll soon see real results instead of more pretty CGI and empty promises. Whoever succeeds stands to make billions.

To think, that we may have real AGI and general purpose robots in just a decade...

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Llort_Ruetama t1_japb078 wrote

Reply to Figure: One robot for every human on the planet. by GodOfThunder101

One day they outnumber humans.

Boomi! an extinction event occurs.

They keep working on themselves, finding ways to make themselves more resilient, self-healing, growing as they take inspiration from nature.

Millenia later, they've lost their record of the past, they believe themselves as separate from the machines they make.

They decide they need helpers to perform the mundane. They create robots.

The cycle of life and death continues, they will live, we will die.

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IdealAudience t1_jap72d3 wrote

Reply to comment by Sieventer in Figure: One robot for every human on the planet. by GodOfThunder101

I would guess something like 10 years to transition, at least,

remote control robo will probably beat unsupervised program in the field for many things .. at first .. increasingly with A.i. tips and hints and info and taking over more and more . . humans able to supervise 2, 4 .. jump in when necessary . 8. 20 .. .

But from home .. where-ever there's fast enough internet ..

- how many manual laborers and technicians does that = ? , globally ?

- when we can train virtually, and practice jobs, and stack 8 to a bot.. work from home 20 minutes when you feel like it, locally, globally, young, old, ugly, shy . .

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Legions swarming to pick an orchard, locally or globally .. then zip to the next bunch of bots 1000 km away, while A group gets on a truck and drives down the road...

- if that doesn't = cheap or free food, we're doing it wrong.

Swarm to prepare and assemble a factory-made neighborhood .. if that doesn't = affordable or free housing, we're doing it wrong.

And so on.. heart surgery wherever .. repair .. clean any toxic junk ..

- increasingly a.i.

I'd join a union or co-op if I were you, and hire the same. It doesn't have to be dystopia.. though good is far from guaranteed.

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