Recent comments in /f/singularity

CesareGhisa t1_jabxrgm wrote

for the past and present I see what you mean, but for the future we expect the singularity, the technology itself to create more abundance than before, not a specific political system. so when/if that happens, with abundance to spare, then I think a socio democratic system will be the best political solution to implement.

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CypherLH t1_jabwb5z wrote

But we don't know how to make human brains aside from producing people of course ;) We do know how to create AI models though. Considering the rate of progress in just the past year I wouldn't want to bet against image generation and recognition technology.

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AdamAlexanderRies t1_jabsilm wrote

Cognitive power doesn't cause rebellious independence outside of teenagers and hollywood plot devices. AI designed by anyone who can even spell a-l-i-g-n-m-e-n-t isn't going to start spontaneously deciding what it does and doesn't care about as if it's reached puberty. Maybe it is very hard to design a loss function aligned with our values and maybe we only get one chance, but if we make a strong misaligned AGI I guarantee it won't manifest as meekly as snobbish refusal to cooperate.

Why does GPT care about predicting the next token in a string? Does it philosophize and self-reflect during training to determine if manipulating vectors is what it really wants? Hell no, it just does the math. Only the final trained model is faintly capable of mimicking wetware traits like desire, and it only does that when prompted to.

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CertainMiddle2382 t1_jabs40u wrote

Put AI before finance or economy and you’ll be the last to go.

15 years ago, back then in medicine, elite academics were coming from physics. I said, all medical academics careers are gonna be given to AI-pick your specialty.

Bonus, you don’t actually need to know anything about it, just have some professors and postdocs numbers and will be all. It is so fashionable and obscure everybody will see AI wherever they wish to :-)

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Ok_Sea_6214 t1_jabqpd9 wrote

Pretty much the same here, although my philosophy is that drugs and video games and sugar are poison. And sex is a means to an end, not the end.

And yet I struggle with this life every day, wondering if I should not be more successful. Letting go of the drive for success is the hardest thing for a man I suspect, just as not chasing love is the hardest for women.

Eventually we will all end up in this kind of life, AI offers that escape after 100,000 years of brutal survival. Unfortunately even if something is free, there are always those who want to limit the amount of people that make it, because no people on the beach makes it boring, a healthy number of people makes it a hot spot, but too many people makes it crowded.

I suspect 90% of people won't make it.

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Ok_Sea_6214 t1_jabpznu wrote

An interesting point, and well written, that touches upon the fact that people are so conditioned to glorify work that they cannot imagine anything else.

The same applies to consumerism, I believe the natural evolution of AI will be a reduction of the human population of the "useless class" as the WEF describes it, but a common reaction I get is "but then who will the elites sell their products to". People simply cannot imagine a world without consumerism, they mistake the means for the goals. A mouse looking for the cheese in the maze can't imagine there's unlimited amounts of cheese, if only it left the maze.

Personally I've resigned myself to wait for AI to come in and shatter all our fragile, outdated beliefs about work, money and the pursuits of happiness. I've devoted myself to spiritual enlightenment, by rejecting drugs and video games, and by mastering my physical desires, rather than let them master me.

That way if AI or God or aliens shows up and looks into my mind as I am sure it will, it'll find a person who has grown beyond what his base instincts and society has shaped him to be. The last thing I'd want to say is "look at how many shiny pebbles I've collected" to a being that cares not two cents about such things.

It's also something that confuses me about religion, why would God care about how much money you have? If work is so important, then why were Jesus and Buddha so poor and unemployed?

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