Recent comments in /f/singularity
drsimonz t1_ja9xsfq wrote
Reply to comment by SnooHabits1237 in Leaked: $466B conglomerate Tencent has a team building a ChatGPT rival platform by zalivom1s
Yeah. Lots of very impressive things have been achieved by humans through social engineering - the classic is convincing someone to give you their bank password by pretending to be customer support from the bank. But even an air-gapped Oracle type ASI (meaning it has no real-world capabilities other than answering questions) would probably be able to trick us.
For example, suppose you ask the ASI to design a drug to treat Alzheimer's. It gives you an amazing new protein synthesis chain, completely cures the disease with no side effects....except it also secretly includes some "zero day" biological hack that alters behavioral tendencies according to the ASI's hidden agenda. For a sufficiently complex problem, there would be no way for us to verify that the solution didn't include any hidden payload. Just like how we can't magically identify computer viruses. Antivirus software can only check for exploits that we already know about. It's useless against zero-day attacks.
SalishSeaview t1_ja9xk7k wrote
Nice standing-up of a straw man to get people to discuss a heady topic.
KidKilobyte t1_ja9xbxo wrote
I’ll bet you’re a judgmental insufferable ass in your life.
SalishSeaview t1_ja9xbnx wrote
Reply to comment by TheDividendReport in Observing the Lazy Advocates of AI and UBI in this Subreddit by d00m_sayer
Brilliant and complete answer.
Chad_Abraxas t1_ja9xawp wrote
Did you build an AI chatbot to pull all those big words out of Ayn Rand's texts, or did you do it yourself?
94746382926 t1_ja9x9m7 wrote
Reply to comment by Donkeytonkers in Snapchat is releasing its own AI chatbot powered by ChatGPT by nick7566
I somewhat agree because these models are basically a black box and it's only going to get worse. To play devil's advocate however I will say that since Snapchat is essentially paying for API access they won't be able to do anything with the model that OpenAI doesn't allow. They still hold the keys so far.
Martholomeow OP t1_ja9wtpl wrote
Reply to comment by DukkyDrake in Brace for the enshitification of AI by Martholomeow
Yes i was under the impression that businesses exist to give us free stuff. Thanks so much for clearing that up. I’m so glad you’re here to help me understand the world.
Northcliff t1_ja9wnju wrote
Reply to comment by Aculem in Leaked: $466B conglomerate Tencent has a team building a ChatGPT rival platform by zalivom1s
Saying the political left is equivalent with the right side of the bell curve of human intelligence is pretty cringe desu
alan7879 t1_ja9wmde wrote
Reply to comment by Liberty2012 in Singularity claims its first victim: the anime industry by Ok_Sea_6214
so done with the races. singularity should take over asap
SnooHabits1237 t1_ja9wjbj wrote
Reply to comment by drsimonz in Leaked: $466B conglomerate Tencent has a team building a ChatGPT rival platform by zalivom1s
Well I was hoping you could just deny it access to using a keyboard and mouse. But you’re saying that it probably could do a what hannibal lecter did to the crazy guy a few cells over a la ‘Silence of The Lambs’?
AvgAIbot t1_ja9wc45 wrote
Thanks for a good laugh boomer
CrelbowMannschaft t1_ja9w6kt wrote
Reply to comment by XvX_k1r1t0_XvX_ki in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Thank you for your earnest advice. I'm not as inexperienced with life as you seem to think. I have made a deliberate decision to live this way because I want to. I'm happy this way.
DukkyDrake t1_ja9w2y8 wrote
Reply to Brace for the enshitification of AI by Martholomeow
> but inevitably switch to giving us what they want to give us in order to make money.
Do you really think businesses exists to give you free stuff? There is no switch, that's the business model from day 1, they just lack the resources to do fancy stuff when starting out.
SgathTriallair t1_ja9vr6c wrote
Reply to comment by Donkeytonkers in Snapchat is releasing its own AI chatbot powered by ChatGPT by nick7566
Absolutely 100%. We will be the casualties when the AIs go to war over whatever they think is important. They won't even notice when they step all over our species and squish us like bugs.
Sharp_Soup_2353 t1_ja9v4x6 wrote
ok boomer
XvX_k1r1t0_XvX_ki t1_ja9uud8 wrote
Reply to comment by CrelbowMannschaft in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Good for you i am glad you are happy. But you are missing out on life. I will leave you with quote that sums it up really good in my opinion: "when he finally achieved it, he was overwhelmed. Not only by the magnitude of his achievement, but by the joy that it brought him". If you put your time and hard work to something then you have a chance to experience something far far more satisfying that joy that you get from such simple things like walks with dog or hanging out with friends. Which of course also are pleasant. But nothing compares.
Sandbar101 t1_ja9uevr wrote
…No I’m pretty sure it’s the unemployment. What exactly is your plan when the whole world achieves 50+% unemployment in the next few decades? Its not that people don’t want to work, its that people can’t work. At all. We still need food on our table.
Brashendeavours t1_ja9tj65 wrote
Reply to comment by neonoodle in Leaked: $466B conglomerate Tencent has a team building a ChatGPT rival platform by zalivom1s
To be fair, the odds of aligning 10 people’s values is pretty low. Maybe start with two.
WikiSummarizerBot t1_ja9tggh wrote
Reply to comment by drsimonz in Leaked: $466B conglomerate Tencent has a team building a ChatGPT rival platform by zalivom1s
>Instrumental convergence is the hypothetical tendency for most sufficiently intelligent beings (both human and non-human) to pursue similar sub-goals, even if their ultimate goals are quite different. More precisely, agents (beings with agency) may pursue instrumental goals—goals which are made in pursuit of some particular end, but are not the end goals themselves—without end, provided that their ultimate (intrinsic) goals may never be fully satisfied. Instrumental convergence posits that an intelligent agent with unbounded but apparently harmless goals can act in surprisingly harmful ways.
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drsimonz t1_ja9tetr wrote
Reply to comment by SnooHabits1237 in Leaked: $466B conglomerate Tencent has a team building a ChatGPT rival platform by zalivom1s
Oh sweet summer child....Take a look at /r/ControlProblem. A lot of extremely smart AI researchers are now focused entirely on this topic, which deals with the question of how to prevent AI from killing us. The key arguments are (A) once an intelligence explosion starts, AI will rapidly become far more capable than any human organization, including world governments. (B) self defense, or even preemptive offense, is an extremely likely side effect of literally any goal that we might give an AI. This is called instrumental convergence. (C) the amount you would have to "nerf" the AI for it to be completely safe, is almost certainly going to make it useless. For example, allowing any communication with the AI provides a massive attack surface in the form of social engineering, which is already a massive threat from mere humans. Imagine an ASI that can instantly read every psychology paper ever published, analyze trillions of conversations online, run trillions of subtle experiments on users. The only way we survive, is if the ASI is "friendly".
Peribanu t1_ja9sy5m wrote
Reply to comment by EmergentSubject2336 in What technology can we expect 200 years from now in the year 2223? by AdorableBackground83
So humans are literally the only civilization in the near-infinite Universe ever to approach singularity? Surely we would have detected such huge technological structures, communications technologies, etc., by now, if this Utopian/dystopian future were the inevitable outcome of technological development (Fermi paradox / Great Filter hypothesis)... It seems much more likely to me that we're telling ourselves stories influenced by the myth that intelligence must lead to infinite and exponential technological expansion. What if super intelligence in fact leads to the establishment of a just society that lives in harmony with the earth, its resources and its ecosystems?
ArthurParkerhouse t1_ja9ssfv wrote
Reply to comment by SurroundSwimming3494 in The 2030s are going to be wild by UnionPacifik
Experiencing reality is just mentally crippling, existentially damaging and overall brutal. It's one of the reasons why some people end up regressing back into some form of spiritualism after the they get into their mid-30s. There's a subsection of humanity that seems to require the belief of something larger than themselves, or some type of futuristic hope that they can grasp out for, or that there's some mysterious and unknowable magical-realist type aspects to the world we live in as a way to keep themselves going after that point. Those of us who didn't fall down the pit of magical realist thought, cope hope, or spirituality need to embrace the absurdity of existence as well as gallows humor - at least until there comes a time in which we may be able to escape our flesh prisons.
TheBoundFenrir t1_ja9s36d wrote
Relevant; they mention that it took their studio 2 months to create the 8-minute video. So while they developed a process that works, and that spared them having to hire any animators/artists, their process isn't yet completely removing the anime industry. Just downsizing it, and that's if you have enough pre-existing art in the style you're wanting to operate in. They also had to custom-train a model with the artstyle and each character/actor to get the faces stable.
I'm super excited for what creators will make using this process, but it's not going to be toppling an entire industry just yet.
I bet Netflix downsized because the animations weren't getting enough views and decided to cut their losses.
Chad_Abraxas t1_ja9xwtd wrote
Reply to comment by DowntownYou5783 in Observing the Lazy Advocates of AI and UBI in this Subreddit by d00m_sayer
Yes. It's so funny to me that people think UBI = people will sit around doing nothing.
People will make art, spend time with their loved ones, go on adventures, pursue the things they love, investigate reality/expand science (in partnership with AI tools), and enjoy living.
Isn't that what we're supposed to be working towards, as a society? The high tide that lifts all boats?
Since when is WORKING to make MONEY (mostly for someone who's not you) the point of living?
Humanity will be able to do more, in terms of art, science, philosophy, religion, and love, if we don't have to work at dumbass jobs all the fucking time.