Yeah, this whole scenario makes sense if you're nobility level rich. I'm not sure what noble intellectual task you plan on pursuing but I'm certain it's a lot less fulfilling when you can just ask your AI bot any question and they can answer it better than anyone.

Is there something particularly romantic or praiseworthy in menial work to you? Do you think a single mother who would rather spend time with her family than stocking shelves, is acting immorally?

Not appreciated by the retail industry.

Who cannot really block others from mapping their stores.

It's not so much that it's surprising as it is the implications of such a massive company pouring its money into the project is either frightening or exciting depending on your point of view

Maybe for a little while. But eventually, the human component of any cybernetic organism is going to become redundant and the weakest, slowest, least-efficient link in the chain of operations.

One step closer to curing the dreaded prion diseases. One day. 🙏

Stoked to see what neuralink will be like in 5-10 years

>useless

People are not means to ends. People are ends in themselves. Tools have uses. People have wills of their own. If they're unmotivated, maybe they haven't been offered an attractive deal.

I absolutely would have sex, masturbate, do drugs, play video games, watch movies, read/write on reddit, and listen to music all day every day if I could. In fact, most days, I can. As a retired, disabled vet, that's pretty much exactly my life most days. I like taking long walks with my dog when I can. I love hanging out with my wife. But I don't really do much productive. I'm just incredibly lazy, tbh. And I'm ok with that, and wouldn't mind if everyone lived this way. I'm 49 years old, and I sleep every night like a baby. I have no stress. I'm very grateful to be able to live this way, and hope everyone will be living like me soon.

exactly. and the people who need servants in order to feel validated will be served by the people who desperately want to serve someone.

62 words per minute Is crazy

I'm not even sure I think that many lol

That's the thing with the CCP. Because autonomy and initiative is dangerous to your political status and then your life, the Chinese searchers rely on stealing intellectual property rather than creating and taking calculated risks in science.

"Hey Tencent AI, what happened on that square on that particular day?"

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The goal of AI automation is unemployment for all. Yes, that is our natural calling, that is how we shall spend our lifes.

Looking around, next to all people only work in order to reach a point where they do not have work. Escaping work is the primary goal of life.

Wether it is joining the militatry for a pension after 20 years, 401K's, passive income from investments, social security, state pensions,...

All humans are hell bent to work as little as possible and some bitch about the " lazy ones" while doing it.

With AI automation, the concept of "working for a living" could fall for the first time in human history for the broad masses.

No one needs to advocate for Ai, it is coming weather you like it or not.

As far as UBI, it does not sound like you have a better solution to all human beings being outcompeted in all physical and cognitive domains.

Isn’t there already erotic bots?

It’s to

• do more with the easiest barrier of entry
• do what you desire with the tools accessible

In order words, what the beholder deems necessary at that particular moment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Praise_of_Idleness_and_Other_Essays

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Roads_to_freedom

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Yes. yes. .. though some notes -

Good to not wait for super super God a.i. .. and hope that all works out for the best,

for a couple reasons -

Well, you know, it is entirely possible to get a significant number of people half-way there in the next decade, or sooner .. that's good.. for a couple reasons..

But with however many hundreds of organizations and non-profits for x, y, z - some have A+ project management Platforms already - we're inches away from better, smarter, more cooperative, more scientific method-y peer-networks ..

peer-reviewing projects, comparing, determining best practices, sharing tools.. avalanches of smart cooperative network help to the Good demonstrating Good .. and to those in need ..

and the politically strategic districts - big impacts if a lot of suffering people get non-profit housing and healthy food and online education and rehabs .. and whatnot .. without a trillion dollar media campaign election poisoning them against it, first - smart cooperative networks can avalanche support and help and teaching and training and remote work .. .. .. and get good done .. .. . then some people who are getting help may well vote for good coordinators of good programs into gov over bags of crap with just angry commercials..

Then more good gets done with good coordinators of good projects in Gov + smart cooperative networks .. more support for more funds to go to non-profit services .. more good coordinators of good programs elected ..

other cities see that and want that also .. Repeat.. without angry campaigns getting in the way.

- if done well, a.i. management, virtual world models for management and teaching and training and demonstration + proposal development / testing / revision .. + remote robo workers' co-op .. + biotech.. . can help significantly. . . if done well.

+ Media artists' network .. helping with the demonstration of good projects, teaching, training, virtual models of existing and proposals ... .. on into daily life guidance, therapy, beneficial fiction showing healthy problem solving . . .. on into 'life in post scarcity valley college town theatre garden' virtual world .. .. version 406, 407, 408 .... + fullfillment education, daily life guidance, therapy, healthy community + a.i. characters .. doing good .. if done well.

+ Academia smart cooperative network(s) / topic / subtopic .. helping eachother + media team + grad-students in econ -> beneficial economics team .. food systems team, psych, social sci, medical, urban design .. .. whathave you .. + non-profit teams + media + virtual worlds + proposals .. .. + community colleges, undergrads, teachers' cooperative networks, schools ..

+ Solidarity economy networks - topic / subtopic .. artisans, co-ops, unions, democratic shops, credit unions .. solidarity economy supply chains / mutual services + non-profits + academia .. + eco/social beneficial investment portfolios .. amazon alternatives.. ..

Local political party chapter topic / subtopic team network ..

hosptials, nurses ..

and whathaveyou.

Anyway, entirely possible to get more affordable housing, healthy food, workplaces with wednesdays and fridays off, better free college, virtual models of non-profit eco-villages we can build with greenhouses and gardens and bikepaths .. and so on .. in 2024, 2025 .. ..

and get howevermuch help to more suffering angry frustrated people .. help them get to good .. maybe help ..

and get more good coordinators of good projects into Gov / -bad gov

- a lot more if we're using smart scientific networks, a.i., remote robo.. well.

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So.. the other reason ..

The next decade, or whatever, transition period .. can get very ugly if we aren't already networking + providing + delivering + supporting + .. . .

If however many people are unemployed and not making rent and not getting healthy media and smart cooperative networks + problem solver teams to go to .. ..

there is going to be virtual world and social media poison going on -no matter what- legions of gremlins and a.i. chatbot gremlins and sexy virtual friends .. with the goal to keep your neighbors away from seeing / helping / supporting / buying from / investing in / working at / wanting / voting for funds towards / good coordinators into Gov ..
at least

but at worst .. inspire angry frustrated unemployed scared people who aren't getting help from Gov ..
+ being attacked by right wing .. and police .. and 'Fascist Gov is coming to kill you'
- inspire some angry scared suffering frustrated people into shooting at a protest, riots, gang wars, shooting back, 'bolshevik' rev, and whatever guillotines are supposed to imply, attack the rich, politiians, oil pipelines to save the planet - "its the only way, Gov is broken.. .. "

- some social media gremlins / bolsheviks might imagine they'll win the bloody rev and put in a happy utopia land .. that's not likely to happen for a lot of reasons ..

- but others are under-cover 4th reich or foreign -or super evil a.i. - knowing damn well the right wing and trillionaires and gov do not just apologize and give up.. they fight back - avalanches of panic fear media - 'barbarian bolsheviks are coming to kill you and bun everything and take over ... and Dem govs are useless " .. . millions of scared conservos join or support Hard Right - more gang wars/ more gang wars more panic media (supporting the Patriot defenders of course vs. the barbarians that must be stopped by every means necessary ) - Hard right warlords win elections over 'weak' Dems .. or Dems who dared to stop right wing gangs ..

Hard right gov

against left ..

either moderates give up the radicals ... or 'it's go time' .. .. (social media gremlins and virtual gremlins will be dumping avalanches of 'its go time' ) yadda yadda yadda increasingly militarized Hard Right Robots / a.i. in Gov / suppression or civil war or warlord period . . eventually Hard right robo warlords.

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instead of good coordination of good topic teams = a bunch more good gets done .. a bunch of people getting help from good programs doing good - voting for good coordinators of good programs into Gov - more gov contracts / vouchers to non-profits and good shops for public services ..

- but that's not guaranteed.. and we're pretty far from ' Super heroes and robo and a.i. got this all covered, don't worry about it, just watch netflix and just vote'.

Does it matter? Either way, we are all going to be unemployed.

Automation of labor destroys the dogma that you need to work to have the right for a decent living. It will completely change our culture. Look at the Zoomers, they think leisure is more important than work. Now imagine generation Alpha...IMO our global culture will be completely different by 2050.

Meanwhile, in the 1800s…

I have taken notice that a substantial number of individuals on this platform exhibit a proclivity for indolence and a repulsion for toil. These persons frequently espouse the belief that the advancement of Industrialization shall ultimately supplant the majority of professions and thereby necessitate Welfare, this perspective appears to originate from a dearth of drive to labor and not from a sincere apprehension for the fate of employment.

If you don't count my early paper route, I've worked since I was 14. Since then, I've garnered enough degrees, credentials, and experience to earn a pretty good income. Statistically, I likely make more than you (edit: referring to OP). Maybe I don't, but there's a good chance I do. A UBI would have to be far beyond "basic," to get me to stop working. (I'll probably refocus my time and energy once I reach financial independence on my own, though.)

I still think that it's likely that automation will come for a large portion of the workforce during my working life. I still think that UBI is a better macroeconomic solution, and a more humane one, than something like a jobs guarantee. It's certainly better than just letting people fend for themselves and crash upon the current welfare system.

What exactly is Tencent?

The accusation that supporters of Universal Basic Income and automation are "lazy" is misguided and lacks a nuanced understanding of the modern economy and work culture. Many jobs today lack fulfillment or meaning, as evidenced by anthropologist David Graeber's work on "Bullshit Jobs." These jobs often involve menial tasks, bureaucratic paperwork, or other activities that do not provide any real value to society. In such cases, working hard may not contribute to the greater good.

It's important to recognize that work is not inherently valuable, and that the value of work is not solely determined by the level of effort or physical labor involved. In the case of a person who automates their job but spends their free time landscaping their property, it would be misguided to label them as lazy simply because they have eliminated the need for their own labor in one area of their life.

The notion of a "puritanical work ethic" has created an unhealthy and false perception of work and society. Hard work is often viewed as inherently valuable, but this ignores the fact that many people work hard at jobs they do not enjoy, just to make ends meet. Moreover, this view can lead to exploitation and overwork, especially when employees have little power to negotiate better working conditions.

Automation and AI present an opportunity to free people from work that is tedious, dangerous, or unsatisfying. Supporters of UBI and AI see this as an opportunity to create a more equitable society where everyone has access to the basic necessities of life. By providing a universal basic income, individuals will be able to pursue work that is fulfilling, rather than being forced to take whatever job is available simply to survive.

It's worth noting the hypocrisy of society's attitude towards work, especially when we consider the disparity between successful video game streamers and single mothers working multiple jobs just to get by. Streamers are often celebrated for making a living playing video games, yet it was not long ago that video games were viewed as a lazy and parasitical use of time. Meanwhile, single mothers, who are often underpaid and undervalued, work tirelessly to provide for their families. The unequal treatment of these two groups is evidence of the distorted perception of work in our society.

A common criticism of Universal Basic Income (UBI) is that it will encourage laziness and that some people will simply sit around all day doing nothing. However, it's worth asking whether this is really a problem, especially in a world of post-scarcity where resources are abundant. If someone is not harming anyone and is able to live a comfortable life without working, why should it matter if they choose to sit around all day? The reality is that most people eventually get bored of doing nothing and seek fulfillment in their lives, whether through work, hobbies, or other pursuits. Moreover, it's important to recognize that fulfillment in work may not always result in a paycheck. Many people find fulfillment in volunteer work, creative pursuits, or simply spending time with loved ones. The value of work should not be solely determined by its economic output, but also by the personal fulfillment it provides. Ultimately, we should aim to create a society where individuals have the freedom to pursue their passions and find fulfillment, without being forced to work simply to survive.

>By far the best AIs are being controlled by everyone

Midjourney seems like the best text-to-image model by far, way better than stable diffusion. And GPT models are fundamentally too large for regular people to run on their machines. They require expensive, enterprise hardware. There might be a lightweight version eventually, but it will always be inferior to the bigger models that run in the cloud.