Recent comments in /f/singularity
basilgello t1_ja7iknh wrote
Reply to comment by IluvBsissa in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
OK, change my mind! :)
just-a-dreamer- OP t1_ja7ik5h wrote
Reply to comment by vivehelpme in An ICU coma patient costs $600 a day, how much will it cost to live in the digital world and keep the body alive here? by just-a-dreamer-
In that case, we wouldn't have people living in coma for years. Also countless elders are doing fine staying in bed all day.
Their minds are long gone, yet their bodies keep working regardless. Man, imagine leaving this world and cut off contact to every single conservative in existence.
A world where you truly don't interact with anybody you don't feel like. It is as close to paradise as it gets.
Any reality, any feeling can be created in a digital world one day, the height of human civilization.
dasnihil t1_ja7ijd0 wrote
Reply to comment by Ok_Sea_6214 in Singularity claims its first victim: the anime industry by Ok_Sea_6214
we're fine as long as we're the only sentient entity. whatever machines that surpass our intelligence concern me much and i don't care much about jobs and careers and other societal constructs. this is strictly about what will happen to art as we know it in future.
only sentient beings are capable of experience the qualia of finding art in literally anything. once these machines show sings of sentience, i will re evaluate this but till then we're fine. we'll have to re engineer the societies tho because we'll be automated for almost everything for sustainability soon.
Arseypoowank t1_ja7iir9 wrote
Think of it this way, some potential technical barriers to your creativity are now unlocked. Think of all the amazing games people with wonderful, interesting ideas can now make that would have been hamstrung by not understanding the technical intricacies. Think of all the indie devs that got screwed by not having that big AAA budget that usually gets blown on a “safe bet” like Call of Honour Medal 5006 Intermediate Era Warfare. They can now put the same amount of polish on their cool and unique left field ideas that the big software houses can!
vivehelpme t1_ja7huym wrote
Reply to comment by just-a-dreamer- in An ICU coma patient costs $600 a day, how much will it cost to live in the digital world and keep the body alive here? by just-a-dreamer-
> In scale it does not cost that much to keep people alive already.
tell that to anyone working in the ICU and watch them die from laughter on the spot
the-powl t1_ja7hnib wrote
I feel you bro
Melodic_Manager_9555 t1_ja7hk6i wrote
Reply to comment by Nervous-Newt848 in The 2030s are going to be wild by UnionPacifik
People won't waste their time on this. Moreover, this election will be endless.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja7hipf wrote
Reply to comment by basilgello in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
You are absolutely wrong.
EDIT : there are many cultures where Nobles didn't descend from warriors, actually. Some were even "poorer" than the common man. In China, for a long time, the higher class were civil servants who aced competitive exams (Europe started copying their system only 300 years ago).
A lot of great scientific achievements were actually made by egalitarian civilizations who had no kings nor aristocratic class, like the Mohenjo-Daro people or the Minoans and Etruscan. Warrior civilization like the Dorian's and Roman's invaded these peace-loving societies, enslaved them and appropriated their culture and scientific innovations. The necessity to enslave people to get more "spare-time" for science is a fallacy.
GayHitIer t1_ja7hds6 wrote
Reply to comment by banaca4 in Existential angst and yolo thoughts & cancer parallel by banaca4
It depends, I myself live quietly and don't really risk life everyday.
It's a combination of both I think.
You should enjoy yourself, but it doesn't mean you should gamble your entire life savings and risk everything.
Balance is key, and it is golden.
I am most likely gonna wake up tomorrow if not, I will be too dead to care.
IluvBsissa OP t1_ja7hdj1 wrote
Reply to comment by Desperate_Ad_5563 in "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
You should read "The Dawn of Everything" from David Graeber, where he shows that many civilizations managed to shift from authoritarian kingdoms to egalitarian societies in the past. The world is what we make of it, nothing is inevitable.
basilgello t1_ja7ha1i wrote
Reply to "But what would people do when all jobs get automated ?" Ask the Aristocrats. by IluvBsissa
Is it a ChadGPT writing? (pun intended)
Here I see total misunderstanding of social sciences and politics as well as history.
First generation of "nobility" is mostly always the warriors, bandits (call it ritters, raubritters - literally "ritter ganster" in German!) or traders. i.e in fact they are really those who dare to change the status-quo. But the devil is in details - if you are stronger, well equipped, you can extort resources from the weaker peasantry and build your power up. Then you engage in wars with your rivals, and eventually win (or lose and die). That's where the first misunderstanding resides.
Next. Opposing labor and leisure is a fallacy because the lack of need to work for someone is not the same as no will to do anything. The first was true but the more educated you are and the more resources you've got (including spare time!), the more interests may emerge from you. While the first-gen achievers are usually tough guys, the most intelligent of them survive the wars and raise their children as an elite. It does not mean that the son of a bandit will become a scientist, but it may be that the wealth created by father will make his son engaged to something not so cruel as his father did - including science.
Finally, the true nobility differs from pseudo-nobility by a clear vision of self-preservation by keeping their heritage dominant and the balls to achieve that. I.e plan and discipline to keep things up. True nobility would never allow "the generation joke" by Albert Einstein to happen with their children. That's key to the prolonged success of some families.
Melodic_Manager_9555 t1_ja7h5fm wrote
Reply to comment by UnionPacifik in The 2030s are going to be wild by UnionPacifik
The grumbling and resentment of old people by young people is just a millennial classic.
sideways t1_ja7h2sn wrote
Knowing that the world may change dramatically or even end in the very near term means that everything you do needs to be for its own sake. Don't despair and don't drop out but equally, don't waste any time on things you dislike and are doing based on some expected future utility.
Personally, I just find myself really feeling lucky to have my family and I'm determined to appreciate every day I have with them - which is what I should be doing anyway!
Last_Jury5098 t1_ja7gepp wrote
Reply to Some companies are already replacing workers with ChatGPT, despite warnings it shouldn’t be relied on for ‘anything important’ by Gold-and-Glory
Recent lay-off plans:
Google:12.000
Meta:11.000
Amazon:18.000
Microsoft:10.000
Twitter:went from 7.500 employes to now less then 2.000 employes.
The replacing has already begun.
ronton t1_ja7gems wrote
Reply to comment by PBMthrowawayguy in Weird feeling about AI, need find ig somebody has same feeling by polda604
Yup, I agree. People keep trying to compare AI to previous big developments, but it’s unique in its ability to replace humans, especially once we achieve AGI.
dasnihil t1_ja7gdw3 wrote
Reply to comment by polda604 in Weird feeling about AI, need find ig somebody has same feeling by polda604
only a programmer who understands logic and concepts will understand the context of possibilities and what/how to make best use of AI.
maybe the traditional way of learning and implementing codes will go away in coming years but logic is not going away and you cant rely on gpt to write codes for you before you learn coding properly. after that it doesn't matter, i use it all the time. so make sure you understand coding and how ai models are trained.
banaca4 OP t1_ja7gcvh wrote
Reply to comment by GayHitIer in Existential angst and yolo thoughts & cancer parallel by banaca4
but do you actually live like that? do you base your decisions given a very short timespan?
GayHitIer t1_ja7fyjz wrote
You said it yourself, just live your life and be thankful for every day.
There really isn't anything else to do.
If we survive we will maybe get something closer to an utopia if not.... better pray that AI has some mercy upon its creators.
dasnihil t1_ja7fyg2 wrote
Reply to comment by jeweliegb in Meta unveils a new large language model that can run on a single GPU by AylaDoesntLikeYou
we define what "quality of life" means besides the drug induced pleasure, i want that too lol.
JackFisherBooks t1_ja7ft8p wrote
I think the anime industry was already primed to take advantage of this technology. Since its inception, anime has always tried to do more with less. It had to because for so long, the industry struggled to keep production costs low. Now, here's a new technology that will help accelerate that effort. It's a bit unrefined now. But after a few years of development and investment, I have a feeling the anime industry and the animation industry as a whole will be in a very different place.
magosaurus t1_ja7ft5c wrote
Reply to comment by BlueShipman in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635
The Flintstones was actually futuristic.
just-a-dreamer- OP t1_ja7fmhs wrote
Reply to comment by vivehelpme in An ICU coma patient costs $600 a day, how much will it cost to live in the digital world and keep the body alive here? by just-a-dreamer-
I think not. In scale it does not cost that much to keep people alive already.
Besides, what would I do with a tropical island? I could have anything I want within the digital world.
There is also the costs involved. A regular FIRE plan involves decades of work in highly paid professions. Doing all that to stop working at some point in older age.
Lazy conservatives join the military for 20 years on the promise to stop working one day, lay back on Uncle Sam's dime and rant about culture and socialism.
This is all so inefficient. I think we could bring costs down 90% to keep a human alive within a range of 10k-15k a year in today's valuation. That requires a principle of 250k for life at 4% yield, that is doable to save up.
The goal of life is to work to not work one day and escape life, therefore we must aim at the most efficient way to accomplish our objective in the physical reality.
RikerT_USS_Lolipop t1_ja7f3pz wrote
Reply to comment by FoxlyKei in Singularity claims its first victim: the anime industry by Ok_Sea_6214
>Anime and animation is grueling work isn't it? Not to mention the labor practices and crunch are soul crushing.
None of that has to do with animation. It's strictly a problem with Capitalism. The owners of those studios want to squeeze ever last possible cent out of their labor. They could very easily pay their artists appropriately and not assign more than 40 hours of work per week. The end product will be slightly more expensive, but all that needs to be done is slash the amount of trash shovelware anime being produced so that those eyeballs are more tightly concentrated and ad revenue goes up enough to compensate.
If the workers weren't enamored with having that specific job because it has been their dream their whole life, and if they had the ability to walk away from a tilted negotiation table, then all those problems would evaporate.
So using the excuse, "ah, it's fine in this case because that's a shitty job" doesn't work. All jobs are going to be that shitty soon enough. And it never has anything to do with the actual work.
Olivebuddiesforlife t1_ja7f0tu wrote
Reply to Leaked: $466B conglomerate Tencent has a team building a ChatGPT rival platform by zalivom1s
They’ve years worth of data, and streets ahead.
gangstasadvocate t1_ja7imqh wrote
Reply to Is style the next revolution? by nitebear
I’ve got this I’m ready for the transition. My purpose already is fuck working. I’m trying to get into the most altered euphoric states.