Well no, it doesn't work like that. There may be hundreds of trillions of humans born in the future, in which case you could say isn't it more likely you would be born then. You were born when you were born, there is no special significance to the time - it just had to happen at some point to be able to have this conversation.

Yeah, let meta pay for the salaries of top lm scientists, that's the most important thing. Those scientists publish papers, sometimes even code or parameters. And eventually they leave meta and use their skill in more open ways.

It's like the fundamental paper about deep learning that was published by Google scientists. The fact they worked at Google turned out to be pretty anecdotal after a few years.

The closest species to us was the Neandertaler. And we ate them.

Not out of malice, it happenend over time in competition over resources. We allmost extinguished most predators like wolves who caused trouble to our lifestock.

An AI that is like us, would act like us eventually.

Welcome to the subreddit for the technological singularity, I guess? r/ABoringDystopia exists too.

I thought about this few months ago. I think to make sure that our consciousness transfers to the non biological brain (which will be built in a way to have the same consious experience as we do), we'll have to modify our biological brain in a way so that it can communicate with the artificial one. That isn't cloning as the brain isn't seperate in this case

Well from the description it sounds Average...a mean average...(badumtish)

First post I’ve seen to ever define “AGI.” Take my updoot.

We need open-source AI assistants on our own computers so that we can be guaranteed our privacy from the big corporations.

Well, I think the value of VR for AI is it allows for embodied intelligence. We can create an environment to train AI by interacting with it in a space that simulates our actual reality.

I also agree things could go really badly in the short term. I just think long term we are on a good path.

I think we won't really know timings until after ~2027(Intel's target) when zetta scale compute starts to come into economic reach. If you tried to build that with today tech, you'll need around 20 nuclear power plants to power it.

The possible futures are wide open.

The Economics of Automation: What Does Our Machine Future Look Like?

Well the last 200 years or so have been incredibly transformative so I’m sure people living in that time thought the same. But yea, it’s crazy to think that most of humanity has lived such static and primitive lives, someone alive in the 1300s lived mostly the same type of live style that someone in the 300s did, same with 1000s years before that. Maybe some minor changes like bronze vs iron (which was major to them) but they still built the same type of tools. Reality was so static.

Imagine bringing someone from 1000 years ago into the modern world, it would be so alien to them that it would be like dropping us into a highly advanced alien civilization or post singularity earth. Maybe even more extreme because we understand that it is a possibility, for someone from 1000s years ago they never even imagined it to be such a possibility for the modern world to exist since things did not change that extremely from 1000 years before.

Several projects are in the way in this direction

This is great!

I don't think they meant it in a bad way, but "cure" implies lactose intolerance is an illness. In reality, people who can digest lactose are in the minority, world wide.

Voice synthesis is pretty much already here.

https://beta.elevenlabs.io/

Ha. I love this.

Hopeful thoughts.

AI can speak protein coding languages. Sample your blood and generate the protien structure that kills only your cancer. Or fixes your degenerative disease. Or improves photosynthesis to a level where we can sequester carbon out of the atmosphere, and make it into wood or hack algea to make fuel for us so that we only burn atmospheric carbon and half global warming.

When enough jobs are eliminated governments are forced to implement universal basic income to keep society stable. You will have a place to live and food to eat. AI will keep you endlessly entertained and people using AI to generate all forms of media will allow you to listen to "new" Beatles songs on demand.

Less hopeful thoughts.

AI will be used as a propaganda generator. I read the liked tweets of a Christian pastor I knew. 15 minute cities - so a city that has everything you need, within a 15 minute walk - are a government control plot.

That level of thinking won't go away, pushback on improving society for "the others" won't be accepted by everyone. Humans are going to human, the most selfish among us are going to continue to make sure they get theirs and can play their power games over others.

Either way, it's going to get weird. Today we have a shared, global media environment (for better or worse). We all watch the World Cup of soccer, we watch marvel movies. When you can generate a custom marvel movie faster than I can type all this, we'll lose those connections between you and the stranger at the grocery store.

Humanity "survived" the taming of electricity. Jobs changed, new places were created, new jobs were made, new art, new foods, new objects. I think AI is of the scale of electricity being tamed, but will happen on a month's to years timescale instead of decades it took to build out the electrical infront.

The next society level changes after AI will happen at an even faster speed. Maybe AI will become sentient, or, it will be harmful while not being intelligent, it will just have or take control of systems that humanity relies on. An AI that can do stock trades vs a competing AI will have unintended consequences.

If we can't easily predict what poem will come out if ChatGPT, how can we predict what it will do when AI is in control of something more important.

This is the thing I keep thinking about. It became really clear during the pandemic that humans have a lot of trouble thinking exponentially for obvious reasons. The same logic applies now to AI.

Everything that we’re doing now with AI - generating content, connecting various AI agents together to create new sorts of outputs, using AI to write programs for other AI - all of that is scaling exponentially now and once we have good AI’s that can generate and model in a simulation that behaves like reality (which is what VR, the “metaverse” gets us), then we wind up with embodied intelligence agents. AI that by virtue of “existing” in an environment like ours is able to generate its own personal training data - whether we call that a personality or perspective or what is up to us.

And these agents can work for us and interact with other agents and basically we can task them to solve for whatever our little hearts desire.

It's actually pretty cool.

Lol. Touché. I’m not a statistician but if there’s been 120 billion or so humans up to this point across history, then is it more likely to have been born in the past?

Nobody that talks about uploading yourself has any idea what that means specifically. What's going on there? There's presumably some kind of machine that captures the state of every cell in your brain and how all the neurons are connected and accounts for hormonal influences and the range signals different types of neurons can make and so on. AND assumes that You are nothing more than what's in your brain. It's as though (somehow) ALL of you can be digitized and then reproduced in a virtual world while you're still a conscious entity that experiences genuine pleasure in your existence. You are so much more than the conscious thoughts floating around in your brain (which we're still a long way from really understanding biologically). You're an animal with hormones and animal instincts. All of your high level language is just an abstraction of the physical world in which all your ancestors human and otherwise evolved in for billions of years. You need that physical world obviously more than you know. There's nothing else you can understand, even in your dreams. The depth of physical sensations such as taste, sexual pleasure, physical closeness have a far more deep rooted place in you than anything specifically human. Feeling the breeze and the Sun on your face while taking a walk with a close companion may be something that can be simulated by something. But without a real loss? Making a machine that fools everybody and passes the Turing test with flying colors does NOT make it truly conscious. It just means humans are gullible. Look at all the people that inject intelligence into chatGPT which is fucking silly.

Humanity not ready for AI truth

I might very well be wrong. I am merely exploring this fascinating topic and putting together the pieces I find. What part do you think I got wrong? I would love to hear your take on it.

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Sounds interesting. Will check it out!

Never "truly" ? Define truly then. Definitely not the sum of atoms (as you agreed).

What if the copy takes place in a few milliseconds - or during your sleep. The duplicates will both have a "continued conscious experience".

BTW, that's the physicalism philosofical theory - the substrate of consciousness does not matter.