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BlueShipman t1_ja3osfu wrote

> It's like the corporate policy of unlimited leaves, if you give people infinite leaves they actually take less than the sanctioned leaves.

Nah. Offer up something "infinite" that has some sort of value and it will be stolen and hoarded in minutes. Your analogy is awful and only works because the workers want to impress their boss.

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BigMemeKing t1_ja3oewl wrote

I'm not sure if you know this. But as of right now there are companies that can 3d print entire homes (3bed 2 bath) for 30k. I would personally take that over any fancy house made by people. Pretty soon once we get to full Ai controlled bots, you will be able to pay Jeff Bezos 10k to build you a fully customized home made entirely by robots that amazon supplies all the mats for.

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Izzy187 t1_ja3nb5d wrote

Thia entire post although took a lot of time to make and write, is sadly written by someone who doesnt have much knowledge on the topic and speculated/assumed the majority of it. Unfortunately in not the correct way. I appreciate the sources but bloomberg and forbes... Really? The data you are trying to reference isnt something that a company is going to release to the public, hence why the mentioned 'news' websites speculated some clickbait crap. You did good on the effort portion though

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Nervous-Newt848 t1_ja3lyai wrote

Its not like people dont do that already when voting for someone...

People can consult experts and write up an initiative no big deal... They already vote on big decisions every year on the ballot... Now they would just vote on more things

We could just have politicians transition into positions which draft bills and put them on the ballot instead of a select few being lobbied and corporations donating millions to politicians

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AsheyDS t1_ja3kmyz wrote

Addressing your problems individually...

Bad Learning: This is a problem of bad data. So it either needs to be able to identify and discard bad data as you define it, or you need to go through the data as it learns it and make sure it understands what is good data and bad data, so it can gradually build up recognition for these things. Another way might be AI-mediated manual data input. I don't know how the memory in your system works, but if data can be manually input, then it's a matter of formatting the data to work with the memory. If you can design a second AI (or perhaps even just a program) to format data input into it so it is compatible with your memory schema, then you can perhaps automate the process. But that's just adding more steps in-between for safety. How you train it and what you train it on is more of a personal decision though.

Data Privacy: You won't get that if it's doing any remote calls that include your data. Keeping it all local is the best you can do. Any time anyone has access to it, that data is vulnerable. If it can learn to selectively divulge information, that's fine, but if the data is human-readable then it can be accessed one way or another, and extracted.

Costs: Again, you'll probably need to keep it local. LLM isn't the best way to go in my opinion, but if you intend on sticking with it, you'll want something lightweight. I think Meta is coming out with a LLM that can run on a single GPU, so I'd maybe look into that or something similar. That could potentially solve or partially solve two of your issues.

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civilrunner t1_ja3jnd9 wrote

Maybe? But if it is it will likely be one of the last things automated. General purpose robotics that are humanoid or can do all the same tasks as a human are likely the most complicated to make. With that being said no one truly knows where AI and therefore robotics will be in 20 years and it's definitely possible.

I wouldn't worry about job security though, if that were to happen we would likely have had UBI or something for a long while due to other mass automation (trucking, manufacturing, generative design, creative, etc...).

Even if you can't make everything on site, the cost of shipping and resources will still be just the cost of those robots and energy (which would also be built up by robotics and if we had that level of robotic production it's likely that fusion has been built out so energy would be near free), and then the cost to make those robotics would also be the cost of the robots that built them.

If robots build robots which can then build everything else including general contractor work (aka general purpose robotics) without the need for any human bottleneck then you start this absurdly powerful compounding growth trend that drives the effective cost of anything to near 0. The only limits would be land and raw materials. Land could be optimized if labor is effectively free by building vertically (vertical farms, lab grown meat, etc...). Raw materials could be mined from asteroids if we have said level of full automation and fusion propulsion driven reusable spacecraft (it's unlikely we would do this otherwise since the cost to get said materials is prohibitively expensive compared to just mining them on earth).

So could a robot at one point become general enough to do all the work of construction? Of course it can. will that happen in 20 years? No one knows. Should you be concerned? Probably not since at that point the whole economy would have to be rewritten and well we'd have plenty of abundance for everyone.

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Intrepid_Meringue_93 t1_ja3j9th wrote

I dislike the idea of using AI that's controlled by a company so think about an AI that runs on your personal computer and that does not need internet to work. Imagine it's born like an infant, with a default state and it grows to fit you and your personality. Imagine having it talk to you through wireless earbuds that look more like low profile accessories and imagine it show you information through smart lenses. AI could become invisible technology, a voice in your head that only you can hear, that only you can control and that greatly expands your capabilities. Distributed, invisible and safe AI, that's the optimal future.

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Capitaclism t1_ja3hvim wrote

I have worked with both housing and tech. I believe he must be thinking of nanobot equivalent robots, or other small bots which can gather resources and synthesize materials. I can see how in some possible future this could be done with the foundation and overall structure, but have a harder time understanding plumbing, electrical.

Go far enough into the future and anything is possible, I guess. Sounds like Sam was vague enough to allow for these far out possibilities. Either that or he lacks even the most basic understanding of how to build housing.

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