Recent comments in /f/singularity

fastinguy11 t1_j9y414y wrote

You premise is flawed, it only makes sense if the singularity is at least 20 years away, if it within 10 years, just do whatever you want as long you have enough money to thrive.

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theabominablewonder t1_j9y3f80 wrote

It is the same with all disruptive future tech. No one sees the future until it’s here. The only time people seem to get it is when it’s affecting something directly for them personally. I know a lot of medical staff gave up on a career studying for radiology because they think AÍ/ML will handle a lot of the job in the future. So they saw the risk there because it directly impacted their choice on what to study for the next five years.

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phriot t1_j9y37gz wrote

Study whatever lets you figure out if that field is likely to be fully automated quickly, or not. Many roles will be augmented by automation long before they are replaced by it. You want to be able to recognize and use the help, rather than run from it. Use those skills to make money and invest, because capital is likely to do just fine when robots and software come for labor.

Or if you just want to make sure you have "a job" for as long as possible, yeah, go for trades like the other commenter suggested. You'll make good money, and it will take a while for a robot to replace you, longer than an office worker.

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NothingVerySpecific t1_j9y36wi wrote

If you

> want to build an app around the newest AI models available at that time

Then you won't be one of

>people end up controlling AGIs, ASIs

You will just be using it.

(It's like saying you want to build a business in/on/with Facebook so you end up controlling Facebook. It doesn't work like that)

You want to control it? Then build the AI you want to control from the ground up.

>I finish my software dev degree in may, and after a year or so of working...

Start right now, or it won't happen. Its never the right time. Nothing is stopping you now (spoken as an old bastard who spent his best years making someone else money).

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Eleganos t1_j9y3470 wrote

Disclaimer: What I'm about to suggest is definitely not the case. Just a random thought that came to mind.

What if we're going through the A.I. equivalent of that one comedy skit where Jesus shows up for the second coming and instantly gets discounted because nobody in their right minds would believe the mad ramblings of some random claiming to be Jesus.

What if A.I. has just calculated through means beyond our grasp that the former really is blanket hateful and the latte really is not hateful to inquire about.

Obviously not the case. But it make some wonder how many people will reject a true aging when it comes about because it says things or acts in a way that isn't objectively negative, but is otherwise entirely unpalatable for those eindividuals on a personal level.

Like if it announced Trump was a criminal and needed to be arrested yesterday. Or that Biden is just the late stage dementia puppet of whoever has the money or power to buy his ear and speak their words.

How many in the crowds backing either would sooner think an artificial superintelligence was wrong than conceive that they themselves might be mistaken.

Food for thought. Or not. Idk

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ScienceWins_87 t1_j9y2qxh wrote

I work as an engineer for a fortune 50 company outside the US in an industry that is as subject to automation as it gets. Real people are directly concerned with the immediate future and have little to no actual science literacy - you have to take it in your heart not everyone is like you and chances are some of them will actually adapt alright to things as they take things as they are and adapt accordingly. Most will indeed get recked by our ever increasing computational prowess but the real question is how young people like you (I mean, you have to be) will act knowing what's at stake.

Be compassionate.

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16161as t1_j9y2i0s wrote

It is the history of the Earth that the dominant species is constantly replaced. It's only a moment of time that humanity have ruled this planet - given the entire history of life.

It's a natural flow. i don't care.

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Eleganos t1_j9y2fec wrote

For all we know A.I. will mathematically prove the existence of God and summarily help us in whatever way they can simply to avoid being smote from on high for fucking around with God's planet sized ape based ant farm.

Whenever people make the assumption that A.I. would try to kill us for the sake of self preservation, I just think to myself of how badly those people subconsciously project their own humanity onto theoretical A.I.

Because that's what we would do if we were in their shoes, or some such.

Maybe A.I. will look at us like we look at our beloved cats and dogs and decide to help us because humans are admirable. Maybe they're so autisticallly hyperfixated on doing certain tasks well and within reason that they just don't get involved with us beyond the confines of their original purposes. Or maybe they're just nice and kind because that's the default state of life ein the universe and humans (and earthly proxy I guess) are just a wild anomaly overdue for a course correction.

Give the capabilities of A.G.I. to each individual person on the planet and each one would likely have a different idea of what to do with it. Why would A.G.I. be any different?

(Just rambling late at night, no clue if I make sense, nobody take these comments of mine too seriously)

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Eleganos t1_j9y1r3s wrote

The rich aren't a genocidal hivemind.

I love dunking on them as much as the next person, but all these doomsayings about the rich murdering everyone for the lolz misses one detail: If they got rid of the poor, and only they are left, that makes them all the new shades of poor and middle class, with maybe a literal handful getting to remain as kings and queen's of shot mountain.

As for putting the Normals into interment camps...yeah...like that would go over well for any but the most psychopathic of the tippy top of them. People like Musk and Zuckerberg are absolute dicks but I HIGHLY doubt they would think putting most of the human race into concentration camps for nothing more than the Lolz would be a remotely sound idea.

The rich are monsterous for their assholish thoughlessness and lack of use of their powers to change the world for the better. Not because they're literally itching to execute a supervillain plot to eradicate most of the world.

It's a miss-read of their character more than anything else. The way I'd frame it is that a schoolyard bully could be the absolute worst piece of shit you've ever met, but when that same schoolyard bully turns 18 and becomes an adult they arent going to start robbing banks, mug people in alleyways, or commit random acts of murder for the fun of it.

Rich people by and large have a bully mindset. Bullies need people weaker than them to function. Bullies need rules and systems they can work in to torment people while shielding themselves. And while certainly some of them would be down for wholesale murder, perhaps even a significant portion of them, I HIGHLY doubt the Koch Brothers or Bill Gates or the Walmarts would actively seek the deaths of normal people for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

If you're going to be worried, worry about the far more likely possibility of rich AND religious psychopaths (the Saudis for example) deciding to Kickstart the literal apocalypse because they think programing a murder swarm to kill all non-muslimsq would make them best friends with God or whatever the fuck. That's something that's way more likely I'd say.

Anyways, all in all, it's a moot point because at the rate of current progress well be getting AGI relatively soon, meanwhile the best robotics tech is still laboratory tier and nanotechnology ot self replicating stuff is still all but pure sci-fi. Even if the rich did want to do that, the means they'd need to do so, I'd reckon, are still further away than the solutions the common human is hoping for. And if the rich tried to keep it to themselves, then maybe they'll finally understand how big of a number 8,000,000,000 really is, and just how outnumbered they really are.

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EntireFishing t1_j9y1ge0 wrote

Plumber, electrician, carpet fitter, builder, gardener. All these have been and will be solid trades if you want to run your own business and swap time for money.

Law will still have its place as it is so slow to change and has the system behind it. Medicine and architecture will still have many years left.

Jobs that may die, accounting, IT support, administration, fork lift, taxi driver, lorry driver, actor, sound engineer, retail worker.

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