Recent comments in /f/singularity

curloperator t1_j668rrd wrote

To me the Singularity refers very specifically to the condition wherein we have created an AGI that is evolving and iterating problems and solutions faster than we can even understand the questions it is asking itself, thus making its solutions seem like incomprehensible infinite-dimensional chess (aka magic) to us. It will be the point at which we have created something so much more powerful than ourselves that we turn ourselves into ants by comparison, and it will happen quickly, in the blink of an eye, accelerating in an exponential curve (not a parabolic one).

At this point humans will have to ask themselves all sorts of questions about what our own consciousness is: presumably we will have essentially solved the problem of consciousness on one hand because hell, we just created a consciousness greater than ours from scratch and without (directly) using our own biological reproductive system. On the other hand, we might or might not have any idea how we did it except that we will have confirmed that it is an emergent property of an apparently physical system with the correct abstractions assumed in its assembly. The AGI may very well give us enough insight or answers to fill in the blanks up to the limit of our ability to understand.

It's likely that there will arise a techpriest class in society composed of the highest IQ individuals who are revered as being smart enough to communicate with the new AGI God, who are able to get at least a mere glimpse of what it's talking about when it chooses to share its thoughts with us. The AGI may even cultivate such a class as part of a "selective social breeding program" to help humans get smarter over time so we can communicate with it better. This would be similar to how human researchers are always on the lookout for the smartest primates we can find so that we can teach them our sign languages, etc. This is all assuming the AGI doesn't just ignore us and transcend into some unreachable realm of thought never to look back and we are left in the dirt, abandoned by our new God, in a sense. How ironic that would be.

In any case, this means the Singularity is less about the post-scarcity problem (e.g. humans coping with such great technological change that it solves all our material problems which then challenges our scarcity-driven instincts - this will eventually happen anyway at our current rate of development, has happened in the past in a relative sense with the industrial revolution, and is essentially always ongoing. It is not a new problem imo) and more about the "STEM processes proving the existence of God by essentially creating one and thus causing a transpersonal socio-philosophical-psychological inflection point" after which nothing will be the same. As in, if humans decide to even continue caring about linear time after the singularity, we will start a new calendar system (BCE/BC, CE/AD, and now AAGI/AS - After AGI/After Singularity). People don't think enough about the mass psycho-spiritual impact this will all have. A new world religion will essentially be created. It will be an advent in every sense of the word.

EDIT: formatting

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Class-Concious7785 t1_j664o4q wrote

Behold, the quotations of your "heroes"

> Beyond the frontiers there has been a misunderstanding of the meaning of one of [the Duce’s] phrases to the effect that three-quarters of the Italian economic system, both industrial and agricultural, is under State supervision. Almost all the medium-sized and little firms and the great majority of slightly larger firms, with the exception of a few categories, are completely outside the sphere of the State’s healing activity.

—Signor Pirelli

> One must first and foremost exclude the State or any public body such as a syndicate, or more important still a Corporation, from taking upon itself the management of businesses and thus eliminating private enterprise or placing it in a thoroughly subordinate position. This would be in contradiction to the Charter of Labor.

—Gino Arias

> Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon.

—Giovanni Gentile

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