Recent comments in /f/singularity

natepriv22 t1_j64prx8 wrote

Uh no. If a company developes AGI, they will become the most important company in history.

If you can't imagine what an actual AGI would be like and what their effect on society would be (nobody can accurately predict that of course), then you cannot make this claim about profits.

What if the AGI decides it likes OpenAI and thats the company that should get the first sci fi level fusion reactors. When talking about AGI you just cannot seriously make this kind of a prediction imo.

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AdorableBackground83 t1_j64pquy wrote

It’s mostly a wild guess. I don’t want to be too optimistic to the point to where I’m delusional or out of touch with reality like some people in this community thinking it will happen in a couple years or something.

I think AGI can be accomplished by 2030 and then the next 10+ years after that is anyone’s guess.

But like I said the sooner the better and I like to be proven wrong.

When do you think the Singularity will happen?

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Baturinsky t1_j64pm2e wrote

Duh, of COURSE it does. That's the price of the progress. The less people's destructive potential is limited by the lack of technology, the more it has to be limited by the other means. And Singularity is gonna increase the people's destructive potential tremendously.
If we'll make Aligned ASI and ask it to make decisions for us, I doubt it will find any non-totalitarian solution.

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Wroisu t1_j64p21w wrote

Hopefully something akin to Ian M. Banks “Argument of increasing decency” turns out to be true, which states:

“There was also the Argument of Increasing Decency, which basically held that cruelty was linked to stupidity and that the link between intelligence, imagination, empathy and good-behaviour-as-it-was-generally-understood – i.e. not being cruel to others – was as profound as these matters ever got.”

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grahag t1_j64oug4 wrote

Capitalism IS the defacto system in use by all first world countries. Even China is gripped in it's fist.

Until we can get to a resource-based economy, we'll have to work within capitalism to solve the problems presented when a UBI is introduced. Consumption is a tenet of capitalism and that'll still need to happen.

UBI won't stop people from working. We'd all need to find something we CAN do that someone will pay us money for. I feel pretty good about my role, but I'm almost ready for retirement, so I'm not as worried as I would have been in my 30's....

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alexiuss t1_j64o0cz wrote

I'm making a positive prediction based on my experience as AI designer and artist.

You're making a negative prediction.

We clearly can't agree because its just a prediction.

We'll see who wins in 5 years. :∆

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[deleted] OP t1_j64mxs1 wrote

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Bierculles t1_j64m8g1 wrote

Yes, the only real question is when, the if is hardly contested anymore.

It all depends on the speed of progress in the AI field. What many people don't think about is that scientific progress is exponential, so it could come from very far off to on your doorstep pretty quickly. There is not a small amount of very prominent AI scientists that predict an AGI (Artificial general intelligence), an Ai that can do everything a human can do, by 2030. Only time will tell though.

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alexiuss t1_j64m1p7 wrote

>And do you really think people are going to pay for shit you’ve told an AI to make when they can just make it themselves for free?

You clearly don't understand what art is or how to make money with art.

People pay for a banana taped to a wall.

People pay for ARTISTS NAME, not the quality art. Why do amazing paintings at a garage sale cost 5 dollars but a painting from a certain artist costs 20 million dollars?

Just because you can get FREE water from a sink, doesn't mean people don't buy boatloads of bottled water or make other overpriced drinks. Same with commissions. Commissions will NEVER, EVER VANISH because free art is made by an ai.

Mass produced AI art that takes 4 seconds to do is worth NOTHING, it HAS NO COPYRIGHT.

A painting drawn by a famous artist is worth millions.

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[deleted] OP t1_j64loqi wrote

Genuinely shut up, you are an asshole who has completely derailed this topic by introducing name calling and contributed nothing to the topic but bragging about how much of a pioneer you think you are and shouting “Hogwash!” at people pointing out the obvious developments of this field a few years down the line. You remind me of people who were going “people would NEVER use AI art in published creative projects, it will never be good enough” a few months ago. It's cool you're exploiting a temporary weakness in the technology to get your pictures made faster but in a few years why the fuck would anybody ever pay you a dime to make anything when they can generate anything they want in your style instantly? Sooner or later whether you want to believe it or not you're going to end up as one of those "Luddites" who you plug your ears and resort to name calling and thought terminating cliches to ignore.

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[deleted] OP t1_j64l9yx wrote

Okay, I don’t agree with this but I apologize for calling you delusional, I don’t intend to be rude. But fundamentally I think the singularity is an inherently deeply flawed, basically religious concept, so talking about a post-singularity world is essentially meaningless to me. Yeah I know I’m on the wrong sub to have that opinion, but I came here to ask about AI art not debate your technoeschatology.

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[deleted] OP t1_j64l26p wrote

Deleting the post because people are getting mean and personal about this on a level I’m not comfortable with. I might have been a little testy because this is directly affecting my livelihood but the intent was to genuinely see people’s different takes on this, not resort to name calling.

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clearlylacking t1_j64kukc wrote

It's a game changing tool, a company that needed ten artist will probably only need two. If you are posting on instagram, it means ten times the competition.

If you want to stay relevant, either become an expert with the new tool or change to a medium that isn't affected (sculpting painting, etc).

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