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LesleyFair OP t1_j64h0r8 wrote
Reply to comment by truthwatcher_ in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
Great, you found value in it!
dr_set t1_j64g4d5 wrote
Reply to comment by LesleyFair in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
Agree, it's a very long shot and you'll need to target specific segments, like gamers to get the power of their GPU's to make it worth while. But I would gladly permanently give them 1 or 2 GBs of memory my 32, 100 GB of disk space (your average AAA game space) and let them use my overpowered GPU while I'm not gaming if they let me access ChatGPT as an assistant on my desktop with a simple combination of keys and to play with Dall-E in similar manner with no limits and no queues.
BassoeG t1_j64fpx9 wrote
Reply to Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
I recommend sculpturing instead of purely visual art. Sure AI will eventually master it and surpass all human efforts, but it’ll take longer since there’s the matter of manipulating physical tools and understanding how to make sculptures which are structurally sound what with entropy and gravity and all. That’s what I’ve done anyway.
[deleted] OP t1_j64fju1 wrote
Reply to comment by alexiuss in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
That’s not what 99.9999999999% of people who make AI art are doing and isn’t even the point of image generation. In the next couple years no one is gonna commission you for jack shite because established artist input will not be needed at all. Enjoy your quick and temporary cash though. Also you seem to have some serious ego delusions and seem like a generally unpleasant person. Using AI shortcuts doesn’t make you some sort of cyborg-super artist
ScionoftheToad t1_j64fanw wrote
Reply to comment by TwitchTvOmo1 in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
I don't doubt that it would be an important development. But how would Microsoft exploit AGI for profit?
alexiuss t1_j64f89f wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
1)I'm getting paid 10 times more or the same because I'm not a complete idiot who lowers market price for projects that are tough. I reach far, far beyond the boundary of what AIs and artists can do.
2)It is my own work because I've trained my own AI on my own art, you tit. I spend 20 years gathering data for my AI and been desinging it since stable diffusion came out.
I don't sacrifice my creative control to the AI because doing that would leave my work uncopyrighted and generic. I sketch and guide my custom-made AI every step of the way, so each drawing takes the same amount of time as if I was doing it by hand, BUT its 100 times as detailed due to how custom SD upscaler tools work.
dr_set t1_j64f74i wrote
Reply to comment by ebolathrowawayy in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
Assuming they make that money, but it doesn't say how. For example, if they get a chunk of The Office sales or Bing's revenue to do so. Sure as hell is not going to be selling 42 dollars pro licenses, specially when you can use the tech in Bing and Office.
What is 100% sure is that Microsoft gets all the benefits of OpenAI for those products for a long time, even forever if they don't find a good revenue model outside Microsoft.
truthwatcher_ t1_j64f1cj wrote
This was an interesting read even though I knew just of the parts already but to see it all so well summarised really shows how exciting the following years might be
TaxExempt t1_j64ewxj wrote
Reply to comment by blueSGL in If given the chance in your life time, will join a theoretical transhumanist hive mind? by YobaiYamete
Subroutines handle those.
ajahiljaasillalla t1_j64esyf wrote
Reply to Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
If art is your way to express your own world, then what will it change when AI can produce better art? I doubt many will pay for your art though.
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I have been playing chess for the last few years. There are more chess players than ever even though AI run on a smartphone can completely destroy the best chess players in the world. Yet people still spend years to master the skill that is not needed in a real world and that computers can do much better and quicker. People just enjoy to play and learn. And there are people living of teaching chess.
genshiryoku t1_j64ence wrote
Reply to comment by terminal_laziness in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
There's no reason to assume AGI translates to profitability. If AGI is commodified then essentially all value will be captured by the hardware guys, not the AGI developers.
TaxExempt t1_j64enbz wrote
Reply to If given the chance in your life time, will join a theoretical transhumanist hive mind? by YobaiYamete
One of me might.
RabidHexley t1_j64eeox wrote
If there is any worry about AGI/ASI I have, it would be about it being in the hands of malicious actors/nation-states. I find that assuming we're going to hand the reigns over to an algorithm that just decides to kill us (for some reason) largely baseless speculation.
[deleted] OP t1_j64e7jw wrote
Reply to comment by alexiuss in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
Hopefully you’re getting paid 10 times less to match otherwise you’re essentially scamming people by presenting work that’s not your own
JavaMochaNeuroCam t1_j64e3yg wrote
Reply to comment by green_meklar in What do you guys think of this concept- Integrated AI: High Level Brain? by Akimbo333
Alan was really psyched about GATO (600+ tasks/domains)
I think it's relatively straightforward to bind experts to a general cognitive model.
Basically, the MOE, Mixture of Experts, would dual train the domain-specific model with simultaneous training of the cortex (language) model. That is, a pre-trained image-recognition model can describe an image (ie, a cat) in text to an LLM, but also bind it to a vector that represents the neural state that captures that representation.
So, you're just binding the language to the domain-specific representations.
Somehow, the hippocampus, thalamus and claustrum are involved in that in humans. If I'm not mistaken.
alexiuss t1_j64dwde wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
> Okay, you think it’s a tool, pretty much every single established artist online disagrees with you and is mad at this.
Nah, dawg. SOME established artists are screaming the loudest on twitter and getting many retweets cus AI is scary and confusing.
Established illustrators like myself have already adapted AI into their workflow and are staying quiet, making new art 10 times faster.
>can you name one thing human artists will be able to do that AI can’t
By using AI the artist is sacrificing control over the final product. More AI use = less control.
It’s NOT taking creativity out of human hands, its making drawing some specific stuff easier and faster to do.
The perfect combo is AI + experienced human artist who guides it. Anything else is almost utterly useless for getting commissions done because (a) AI can't draw tons of stuff at all as its not god and (b) AIs have no rights. Good luck copyrighting an image made 100% by an AI without human guidance.
[deleted] OP t1_j64dqn4 wrote
Reply to comment by Gym_Vex in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
Depends on what the knobs and dials did. How much direct control do you have?
Gym_Vex t1_j64djm9 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
Yes the commissioner isn’t the illustrator but to say they have zero creative involvement is silly.
It seems your really hung up on the fact that ai art uses language as its input. If you had to use knobs and dials would it somehow be “creative” to you?
TwitchTvOmo1 t1_j64d1ff wrote
Reply to comment by ScionoftheToad in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
Is that a serious question? AGI would be like cavemen discovering fire.
[deleted] OP t1_j64cumm wrote
Reply to comment by alexiuss in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
If I have to hear “adapt AI into your workflow” one more time. It does not adapt into a workflow. Its purpose is to replace the entire process. The point of AI art is that there is no “workflow” because you are not working on it. The fact that anyone has to make any manual modifications to it to get what they want is considered a flaw to be fixed within the next few years. And do you really think people are going to pay for shit you’ve told an AI to make when they can just make it themselves for free?
TheOGCrackSniffer t1_j64cukr wrote
Reply to comment by grahag in How life with UBI could look like by Financial_Donut_64
ehh, id only be worried for the west, capitalism is the meaning of life there tbh and suddenly no longer working which is a crucial tenet of capitalism will collapse your worldview, good luck with that. know that work is just a means for survival, nothing more nothing less, if we can survive without work then so be it. it wouldnt be work then but a recreational activity
alexiuss t1_j64cqkp wrote
Reply to Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
>artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years
This is a speculative statement like the doomsday prophecies about 2012 or 2020. We don't actually know how much AIs will impact Art economy or freelance artists because AI art has no copyright right now in lots of countries.
AI art is just a new medium of digital art, you can still draw with any other medium and make tons of money or you can adapt AI into your workflow as artist and make tons of money.
You must either train your marketing skills to become a freelancer or comic book artist or work for a corporation which might or might not fire you because of random reasons or study AIs + art.
Money in art isn't made with just drawing skills, it's mainly made by connections with people:
[1] more fans you have bigger your patreon income and shop sales are
or
[2] you're working for a corpo and the replacement period is VERY unclear because AIs have no rights whatsoever, but in near future you might need to learn AIs to work for a corpo.
[deleted] OP t1_j64ch65 wrote
Reply to comment by cloudrunner69 in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
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nitebear t1_j64bzl0 wrote
Reply to What does singularity look like to you? by [deleted]
I think nothing in particular will change for awhile when we reach the singularity. There will be massive amounts of news worthy breakthroughs happening faster and faster, however, humans are very adaptive to change. As such I suspect all this extra "noise" will be filtered out and we'll ignore what once were great breakthroughs and only care about the top .001% of breakthroughs. Instead of, "New research shows breakthrough that can reverse aging", we'll see, "CVS to sell anti aging pill next season".
Government jobs around creating legislation are going to be the most important jobs that exists and the only limiting factor for awhile. For example, we'll have the tech to easily and quickly deliver food with drones, but it will be limited by government regulations on how loud the drones can be, were they can or cannot fly, and all the little details that no one cares about until they're production ready.
Another limiting factor for new tech is that humans generally tend to prefer their habits and move slowly in terms of consuming products, I know it sounds counterintuitive but let me explain. How many people would be ok with having to get a new PlayStation shipped to them every week? every month? what about every year? People already hate switching oses even if they are not necessarily avoiding them for privacy reasons.
In the most ideal scenario things just get better without anyone noticing. The air gets cleaner, the water taste better, there more grass, plants, trees outside. You notice you just feel better even after eating 2 big macs because it's be chemically changed to be healthier. You get help when you need it and fast. If you had a traumatic experience you go to the doctor and they fix your mental health that day.
Essentially everything is the same just better and that easement of suffering makes your interactions with others much nicer.
As far as when it will happen, I don't know but 10 years does not seem far off. Specifically because I am personally noticing so many breakthroughs already happening at a faster rate than I've experience before. The news isn't all doom and gloom anymore, it's about 97% doom and 3% hope a big up from 1% hope from before.
BunnyVendingMachine t1_j64h3uj wrote
Reply to Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
I am painting for my own pleasure.