Recent comments in /f/singularity
[deleted] OP t1_j63gw7s wrote
Reply to comment by No_Ninja3309_NoNoYes in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
I do agree and philosophically I wouldn’t have much of a problem with AI art if it somehow read your mind and just generated exactly what you were thinking (without just photo bashing other people’s art but I don’t want to debate the copyright side of this). I’m a digital artist and it would be hypocritical of me to just be against things for making things easier. The issue I have is that it is currently not a tool but a replacement, it’s taking creativity out of human hands.
No_Ninja3309_NoNoYes t1_j63gdlm wrote
Reply to Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
Art is about personal discovery and connecting to previous generations. But if you don't agree, I can't convince you.
koelti t1_j63gbed wrote
don't want to be rude because this seems well researched, but can you give a TL;DR? 😅
[deleted] OP t1_j63g1op wrote
Reply to comment by Heinrick_Veston in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
Okay, even if the planet had enough resources to feasibly allow that to happen (doubtful), so you really think any government would allow that kind of societal upheaval to happen? Some level of scarcity is literally necessary for every single modern social system to function. And most significantly Advanced AI will also unlock new methods of hyper efficient repression.
I didn’t really expect people on this subreddit to be this delusional about this topic. We are not going to be living lives of luxury free of work with everything we love at our fingertips and instant gratification on every whim. You might as well be Christians talking about how wonderful the world is gonna be when Jesus comes back.
gaudiocomplex t1_j63fyf1 wrote
If you're interested in the alignment debate, it gets far, far more nuanced than this... And perfect human cooperation is a pipedream. There will still always be somebody who has very little to lose and a lot to win who is willing to take the gamble.
Lesswrong.com has a lot on this, including the odd/ interesting notion that the first to get AGI should find ways to prevent others from attaining AGI.
GayHitIer t1_j63frod wrote
Everything can kill you in due time.
Rather die a fast death to ASI than slow cancer death or sickness.
Fear mongering the uneducated masses never leaves to something positive
Also who cares it's inevitable being scared of it is stupid.
rthomas10 t1_j63fr8w wrote
Reply to comment by gahblahblah in How life with UBI could look like by Financial_Donut_64
>The point of the need of UBI is that there won't be jobs, because society will be automated.
So when there are no jobs (this will never happen) we can talk about a UBI ok? Humans are all driven by what they perceive as their best interest. Me, you, the person down the street, the politicians pushing the narrative....you will never breed this out of humans.
Heinrick_Veston t1_j63fkof wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
Advanced AI is the road to post scarcity, it's entirely feasible within our lifetimes. Where opinion differs is just how soon it'll be, but many experts have predicted the Singularity occurring in the next 5, 10 or 20 years. Depending on how old you are even the least optimistic predictions will likely play out in your lifetime.
Ammordad t1_j63fcrt wrote
Reply to comment by grahag in How life with UBI could look like by Financial_Donut_64
Venezuela and Iran both have strict price controls. But it didn't help. It only led to scarcity and curroption.
sonderlingg t1_j63emap wrote
Reply to If given the chance in your life time, will join a theoretical transhumanist hive mind? by YobaiYamete
Yes. This scenario is the only positive future I can imagine.
Otherwise different minds would compete for resources to expand themselves.
Though we can't be sure that merging consciousness is possible in our universe.
People mostly get the idea wrong. Like they would be a small part in a controversial sea of typical human consciousness. No, everyone would be this united consciousness, and the experience is unimaginable even for those, who tried heroic doses of psychedelics.
[deleted] OP t1_j63dz9r wrote
Reply to comment by GeneralZain in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
A “post-scarcity” world is not going to happen in any of our lifetimes. I’m talking about the foreseeable future, not a naive repression-free utopia of infinite resources where nobody has to work. Also the shift from painting to photography was a change of the use of 2 mediums, not the handing over of methods of creation from humans to automation. Plus painting can do lots of things that photography cannot, the end goal of AI art is to have everything artists could possibly do replaceable by AI. They’re really not comparable and it annoys me when people try to act like they are.
GeneralZain t1_j63d9f4 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
AI will take over every job eventually...
I don't see what's wrong with the "do what ever you want" argument? in a post scarcity world, where people aren't forced to work to survive...people should be able to just do what they want? sure some people may never even think about a human artist again but like...who cares? that's their choice...as is making art even with super amazing AI being around.
If your argument is "oh well AI will it SO much better that nobody will do it anymore...maybe? I doubt it though? for example, before photographs painting was the best way to "capture" nature, but the second photography took off suddenly that wasn't true anymore. did painting go away, never to be touched again? no obviously not. or how about digitized music? people still learn how to play the panino, whether its on a real piano or a synth one or even just straight midi.
To me the process of making something, the end result of a work of art or even the gaining of new personals skills that it might have taken to make said thing are what will be important to people in the end.
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so yeah...just do what ever you like if you enjoy it. pretty simple and straight forward to me.
dasnihil t1_j63d628 wrote
Reply to comment by Professional-Song216 in MusicLM: Generating Music From Text (Google Research) by nick7566
i also cannot wait dear fellow scholar
CellistDouble3772 t1_j63curn wrote
Reply to comment by grahag in How life with UBI could look like by Financial_Donut_64
In theory this sounds good. But government intervention on prices has always lead to more harm in the long run.
[deleted] OP t1_j63c58u wrote
Reply to Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
Also please don't say "just do what you like because you enjoy it", I'm not 12, thankfully you guys don't seem to think like that though.
GayHitIer t1_j63bnmm wrote
Reply to comment by Frumpagumpus in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
Still better than baseless, researchless, opinions.
I will take this over twitter quotes from some random nutjob.
-ZeroRelevance- t1_j63appk wrote
Seems like my prediction was right, this year will probably be the year of Text2Audio. So much advancement over last year already and it’s only been a month since the start of the year.
notthebestchristian t1_j63ajku wrote
Reply to comment by californiarepublik in In case the non physical job apocalypse happens, what will you guys do? by pehnsus
13 billion dollars for a novelty. That’s all I have to say.
Frumpagumpus t1_j63aara wrote
Reply to comment by _a_a_a_a_a_a_ in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
mods are capricious, some may allow it through some may not (and whether it is relevant or not is only weakly correlated, here it is fairly relevant), one of his motives is he is trying to promote his newsletter.
in terms of quality of the post though i would say it is definitely top 2% of content on the sub though so, why not
GayHitIer t1_j63a03w wrote
Reply to comment by Surur in Teachers pet? How about AI's pet by Ashamed-Asparagus-93
Masochist find this as an absolute win.
Dommy Asi
GayHitIer t1_j638pyn wrote
Reply to comment by _a_a_a_a_a_a_ in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
Finance is really important if we want the singularity sooner.
Capitalism is fueling the singularity, without incentive it would take much longer.
[deleted] OP t1_j638orc wrote
Reply to comment by AdorableBackground83 in What does singularity look like to you? by [deleted]
Thanks for replying. I’m new to learning about all this so your response is tops.
LesleyFair OP t1_j63852t wrote
Reply to comment by GayHitIer in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
Thanks a lot!
LesleyFair OP t1_j6382oj wrote
Reply to comment by _a_a_a_a_a_a_ in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
I would argue it is related. The financial future of OpenAI has huge a impact on the development of machine learning
LesleyFair OP t1_j63gwsu wrote
Reply to comment by koelti in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
haha
You can jump to the last section. I discuss the deal there. If you are somewhat familiar with ML and the data economy, you can skip the first part.