Recent comments in /f/singularity

[deleted] OP t1_j63gw7s wrote

I do agree and philosophically I wouldn’t have much of a problem with AI art if it somehow read your mind and just generated exactly what you were thinking (without just photo bashing other people’s art but I don’t want to debate the copyright side of this). I’m a digital artist and it would be hypocritical of me to just be against things for making things easier. The issue I have is that it is currently not a tool but a replacement, it’s taking creativity out of human hands.

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[deleted] OP t1_j63g1op wrote

Okay, even if the planet had enough resources to feasibly allow that to happen (doubtful), so you really think any government would allow that kind of societal upheaval to happen? Some level of scarcity is literally necessary for every single modern social system to function. And most significantly Advanced AI will also unlock new methods of hyper efficient repression.

I didn’t really expect people on this subreddit to be this delusional about this topic. We are not going to be living lives of luxury free of work with everything we love at our fingertips and instant gratification on every whim. You might as well be Christians talking about how wonderful the world is gonna be when Jesus comes back.

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gaudiocomplex t1_j63fyf1 wrote

If you're interested in the alignment debate, it gets far, far more nuanced than this... And perfect human cooperation is a pipedream. There will still always be somebody who has very little to lose and a lot to win who is willing to take the gamble.

Lesswrong.com has a lot on this, including the odd/ interesting notion that the first to get AGI should find ways to prevent others from attaining AGI.

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rthomas10 t1_j63fr8w wrote

>The point of the need of UBI is that there won't be jobs, because society will be automated.

So when there are no jobs (this will never happen) we can talk about a UBI ok? Humans are all driven by what they perceive as their best interest. Me, you, the person down the street, the politicians pushing the narrative....you will never breed this out of humans.

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Heinrick_Veston t1_j63fkof wrote

Advanced AI is the road to post scarcity, it's entirely feasible within our lifetimes. Where opinion differs is just how soon it'll be, but many experts have predicted the Singularity occurring in the next 5, 10 or 20 years. Depending on how old you are even the least optimistic predictions will likely play out in your lifetime.

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sonderlingg t1_j63emap wrote

Yes. This scenario is the only positive future I can imagine.

Otherwise different minds would compete for resources to expand themselves.

Though we can't be sure that merging consciousness is possible in our universe.

People mostly get the idea wrong. Like they would be a small part in a controversial sea of typical human consciousness. No, everyone would be this united consciousness, and the experience is unimaginable even for those, who tried heroic doses of psychedelics.

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[deleted] OP t1_j63dz9r wrote

A “post-scarcity” world is not going to happen in any of our lifetimes. I’m talking about the foreseeable future, not a naive repression-free utopia of infinite resources where nobody has to work. Also the shift from painting to photography was a change of the use of 2 mediums, not the handing over of methods of creation from humans to automation. Plus painting can do lots of things that photography cannot, the end goal of AI art is to have everything artists could possibly do replaceable by AI. They’re really not comparable and it annoys me when people try to act like they are.

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GeneralZain t1_j63d9f4 wrote

AI will take over every job eventually...

I don't see what's wrong with the "do what ever you want" argument? in a post scarcity world, where people aren't forced to work to survive...people should be able to just do what they want? sure some people may never even think about a human artist again but like...who cares? that's their choice...as is making art even with super amazing AI being around.

If your argument is "oh well AI will it SO much better that nobody will do it anymore...maybe? I doubt it though? for example, before photographs painting was the best way to "capture" nature, but the second photography took off suddenly that wasn't true anymore. did painting go away, never to be touched again? no obviously not. or how about digitized music? people still learn how to play the panino, whether its on a real piano or a synth one or even just straight midi.

To me the process of making something, the end result of a work of art or even the gaining of new personals skills that it might have taken to make said thing are what will be important to people in the end.

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so yeah...just do what ever you like if you enjoy it. pretty simple and straight forward to me.

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Frumpagumpus t1_j63aara wrote

mods are capricious, some may allow it through some may not (and whether it is relevant or not is only weakly correlated, here it is fairly relevant), one of his motives is he is trying to promote his newsletter.

in terms of quality of the post though i would say it is definitely top 2% of content on the sub though so, why not

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