Recent comments in /f/singularity

Thorusss t1_j5xnzqv wrote

We allow allow humans do drive, we allow possibly emotional upset, drugged, sensory challenged, tired people distracted by a person/call/whatever to make make a judgement of value of human life. Are we willing to go there?

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j5xite4 wrote

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>That's AGI. It is empirically as smart as an average human.

Contains nothing that makes any sense to me. This is where your whole argument falls down. There's nothing 'empirical' about that claim at all, and what human brains and AI synthetic personalities do to generate apparent intelligence is so vastly, incomprehensibly different that it's ridiculous to compare the two like that.

Language is the only common factor between humans and AI. The actual 'cognitive processes' are vastly different, and we can't just expect our solipsitic human 'individual animal' based game-theory mumbo-jumbo to map onto an AI mind so easily. AI is a type of a mind that is all social context, and zero true individuality.

We are being stupid to reason as if it would do anything like what 'a human would do'; it doesn't think like that at all. AI will be nothing like a 'superintelligent human', I fully expect the first truly 'self aware' AI to be an airheaded, schizophrenic, autistic-similating mess of a personality. It's what I think I'm seeing early signs of with these Large Language Models; extreme 'cleverness', but no idea what to do with any of it.

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j5xhrnf wrote

Haha, you're so overconfident and smug, it's adorable. You need to watch out for your hubris, it doesn't actually make you smarter than everyone else.

Your magical 'math' does not just sit on top of emotion, all superior and shiny. You'll figure this out someday, or die trying.

But it looks like my attempts to persuade you that Cartesian tautologies are not the same thing as wisdom are never going to cut through; you're just going to keep accusing anyone you disagree with of being 'too emotional'.

That's called 'gaslighting', mate, and it's not a legitimate debate tactic. It doesn't look good on you, you really need to work on not doing that, or it will get you into real trouble in real life.

There's no point arguing with a gaslighter who just dismisses your every argument as 'emotional', so I bid you goodbye for now. I wish you luck in figuring out how to do cynicism and wisdom properly.

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Desperate_Food7354 t1_j5xde6j wrote

I think quantum entanglement has nothing to deal with consciousness, first nobody seems to really even have a coherent definition of consciousness so I don’t exactly know what we are trying to explain and 2 quantum entanglements is done at cryo temperature and our brains are just some wet massy goo.

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Superschlenz t1_j5xc0jf wrote

This implies that until the singularity has happened, Ray "we" Kurzweil is able to predict the future!

Wow! I am not able to predict the future. This Ray Kurzweil guy must be a great prophet, then. I better listen carefully what he has to say and buy his books because ... well, he knows the future!

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