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How does the average person know this? Because he knows there are starving people in the world and he doesn't care. But the funny thing is I think the rich actually might care about starvation.

I think humans will enter in a dark age of knowledge. Technology will advance exponentially and scientists will not be able to follow AI on it. Imagine how dumb people will be in 20, 30 years.. they will make flat earth people look intelligent. Art created by humans will be so ugly as medieval era and there will be just a fraction of engineers, scientists we have today.

I hope so

Flip it around. It saves the lives of, say a group of 11 people, by sacrificing 1.

I'd like to know what you designate as the marker for the singularity?

I feel like this answer is cheating but I think what'll be the main unforeseen advantage of the first supercompetent AI is that it'll always prevent unsafe situations like that from ever getting close to formulating, or at least always expertly swerve to avoid hitting both people. It just shouldn't be possible in the near future

And what happens if a person's worldview goes against the dominant ideology of that time period? "Cancellation" in that proposed world means that a person could potentially lose everything the moment they step out of line.

Perhaps not immediately concerning because one would imagine that they won't be going against the grain, but leaving so much power in the hands of a vague unknown is extremely dangerous.

A potential argument against this could be that if you're kicked out of this system, you can just buy the physical items that you'd need to continue to live. But would that be feasible? Would companies continue to produce consumer-grade equipment if a great majority of people are happy to own nothing? And even if consumer-grade equipment existed, it would be far too expensive to suddenly have to buy everything.

After enough generations pass, it won't even matter if they can purchase this equipment because they'll be far too thoroughly dependent on this system.

Some points to consider at the very least.

Yes

Sure, why not?

Why? Even if you want to expand access you can run it as a subscription service, and as wealth inequality grows, the number of potential customers dwindles.

Not trying to be a sooner there, but if it’s a privately held tool, it will be used in whatever manor results in the greatest profit and monopolies are always the best way to maximize profits.

I'm sure that Gary Marcus will respond the same way that the average self-proclaimed cynic and skeptic on /singularity does: "no ur wrong and dum lol"

What is?

They won't use it to starve people.. I never understood the overly complex methods people come up with..

If they want to kill everyone, all they would have to do is unleash 5 or six different variants engineered small pox into a handful of cities, with a 2 week incubation period.

The overwhelming majority would be infected in under a month.

I think a group deciding "hey I want all the land that is currently taken up by the masses" is a very real possibility. Its not like psychopathy isnt a very real condition. It's also been proven that CEOs are much more likely to have psychopathic characteristics.

I prefer to think things will turn out, but something horrible like the above happening is very much a possibility. Hopefully things turn out.

Why would the owners of said robots keep you well fed if you have no use?

That would only be the case if AGI tech was owned, operated, and contained within one tight-knit group. Eventually, someone is going to want to commercialize it and sell it to the masses

Real doomer sees thas scenario as the win, as it assumes people will still be alive and in power.

This sucks for super talented artists. They won't get the recognition that they once did. Everyone will automatically assume it's AI

I fundamentally disagree that AI being capable of translating at human level is an adequate marker for the singularity.

the internet is already broken. most of the search results i get seem like they were written by bots, and many of them were written by low paid writers who just write posts based on what people are searching for. Half the stuff i find is not only wrong but in many cases nonsensical and self contradictory.

I actually know someone who works for one of these places. She writes articles on things she knows nothing about by just rewriting articles that are already out there, thus regurgitating and spreading the nonsense.

She showed me a tech article she had written and it was completely wrong, yet the seo made it rise to the top of the results, alongside a bunch of other articles on the same topic that also got it completely wrong.

It’s becoming pointless to search

Some of Marcus' comments are so strange because he always thinks about AGI and seems to to think that other people also think that way. His critique against ChatGPT is that he doesn't think it is a fast way to reach AGI. He basically says we should scrap GPT and do other things. I agree on GPT not being a steep stepping stone towards AGI, I don't think GPT has much at all to do with AGI. But that is not the point! GPT3 is a fantastic tool made to solve lots of things. Even if it never has anything to do with AGI it still worth an insane amount of money and will be extremely beneficial.

For me GPT might be more important than AGI. Each time Marcus speaks he just assumes that everyone's goal is AGI. It is very strange.

Vernor Vinge didn’t call it the net of a million lies for nothing

Very well said/written!

To my knowledge he said AI will be as smart as a human by 2029. To me that means AGI by 2029, give or take a few years

How are so many people unable to understand such a simple statement. Do you own CDs? Do you own blurays/dvds? Do you use a music service like Spotify? A movie service like Netflix? Ever used an Uber? Ever not cooked at home and got a meal delivered? Eventually the service model will mean more and more stuff will be done as a service. No need for a car if a super cheap always available uber taxi is available. No need for a kitchen if every meal can be delivered cheaply and quickly. No need for a wardrobe full of clothes (or washer/dryer) if clothes can be delivered as you need them. This can become part of everything in your life including your accomodation. In other words, you will own nothing (because you don't need to) and you will be hapoy (because you have everything you need and it is cheap, reliable and flexible).

Oh no, now you are going to have to pretend that you never read this so you can continue on your bullshit crusade.