Recent comments in /f/singularity

Shelfrock77 OP t1_j5uxs2h wrote

You are on coke if you think we will be able to manufacture everything in the universe in our little pods in the 2030s. We gon be able to make suitable spaceships and fockin energy weapons right ? Sure, it’ll do awesome stuff but plz stop acting like it will run smoother than you think this early, there will be limitations as humanity matures but then limitations will shrink once we start terraforming and sucking energy outta stars. The rich are going to kill most of us AND mindupload us. Idk what’s it going to take to believe that. We won’t have to kill many animals anymore if humans die too. We save space and eventually turn ourselves into fucking wires and the process of evolutions starts back over again. Just ask Keanu. “By 2030 you’ll own nothing and be happy” is metaphorical. You’ll own anything you want in the simulations we create.

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Cult_of_Chad t1_j5utok4 wrote

Or literally none of that will happen. Do you just sit around imagining increasingly more bizarre and convoluted ways rich people bad? Get a grip. Your inane speculation has so many moving parts it might as well be a ferris wheel.

Somehow you've taken the very credible concept of AI-driven existential risk and reduced it to a ridiculous conspiracy where AGI cooperates with a global cabal of Disney villains to do something untenable and pointless.

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RabidHexley t1_j5usxxx wrote

> We will be soon desensitized with art as we know it today (pretty looking photos, beautiful landscapes, renaissance work), because when things become too cheap to produce without requiring any expertise, it automatically diminishes in value and society will come up with new trend

I already kind of feel like this is the case. Not on an individual level, I can still be impressed and enjoy work, and I don't think that will really change.

But what were previously virtuosic displays of skill in many domains aren't remotely as novel as they used to be. Simply due to the mass proliferation of skill and material access, the number of people who posses the technical skill of those previously considered masters is fairly huge.

If you're an aspiring artist or creative in any domain, you already have to assume there are thousands and thousands of people who are as good or better than you will likely ever be. AI changes the economic paradigm to be sure, but I'm not sure how much AI will change the emotional paradigm of why people pursue creation.

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SoylentRox t1_j5urx2v wrote

Sure. One idea I have had is :

  1. Megacorps develop very capable AGI tools and let others see them

  2. Have billionaire friends, get startup money

  3. Use the AGI tools to automate mass biomedical research

  4. Once the AGI system understands biology well, give challenge tasks to grow human organs or keep small test animals alive. Most tasks are simulated but some are real.

  5. Open up a massive hospital in a poor jurisdiction with explicit permission to do any medical treatment the AGI wants as long as the result are good.

  6. Some kind of Blockchain accountability, where patients before applying to go to your hospital register and get examined first and the conventional medical establishment writes down their current age and expected lifespan and terminal diagnosis. Then after treatment they return and get examined again. Blockchain is just so history can't be denied or altered.

  7. Payments are on success. Waitlist order is based partially on payment bid. Reinvest all profits to expand capacity and capabilities

  8. Use your overwhelming evidence of success to lobby western governments to ban non AI medicine and to revoke drug patents. (Because there is no value in pharma patents if an AI can invent a new drug in seconds. To an AI, molecules are as easy to use as we find hand tools and it can just design one to fit any target.)

  9. The owners of the clinic would be trillionaires. It's the most valuable product on earth

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TallOutside6418 t1_j5uq5m1 wrote

It’s not “exactly the sort of simple fallacy” you imagine. The number of people who could be members of this group is fundamentally finite.

Intelligence is not, as far as we can ascertain, finite.

An AGI will not only have integral access to the billion-times speed up for basic operations (sorting lists, counting, mathematical functions, etc.) but it will be able to adjust its programming (or neural weights and connections) on the fly.

Human beings will be outstripped in no time at a level that will be incomprehensible to us.

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sharkinwolvesclothin t1_j5upsu2 wrote

I need to fix the breaks on my bike. What assumptions I'm searching for?

> The greatest cognitive skill in a post-ChatGPT world is going to be: Asking the right questions. And then, Knowing where to ask them.

Yeah it smart to know you chatgpt and this crop of generative models are not good for searching information - they might make shit up about the breaks that will kill me in traffic. I wouldn't knowing to Google the greatest cognitive skill though.

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