What reason would it have to develop resentment? This seems like you are anthropomorphizing it. There's no reason to build something that would resent us in the first place.

Intelligence and knowledge is not emotion.

There will most definitely be literally no jobs in the 2040's because of automation.

Not really. No. Nobody here is prosthletizing, commanding others to behave or act in certain ways, or putting faith in some supernatural power.

There are outliers, sure. But most folks just believe (justifiably) that what's coming will be a radical change to society. A paradigm shift not unlike the transition from the early to late 20th century.

Talk to anyone from the start of last century about how modern day would be like, and they'd think you were insane or, well, some flavour of religious cultist.

I'd liken to the misconception as being akin to our hardwired neurological tendency to find faces in everything. Only in this case, its finding religions where none exist.

Plumbing.

20-30 years? None…

Longevity sub is still going strong. I don’t mind the cultist posting here as long as cool innovations are still being discussed but once the doomers take over I’m out.

It's all bots.

We’re almost there. NPCs running on A.I, having conversations like humans would: https://youtu.be/jH-6-ZIgmKY

We’re almost there. NPCs running on A.I, having conversations like humans would: https://youtu.be/jH-6-ZIgmKY

Fantastic, thanks!

Maybe this life is just a big multi-user simulated experience to stave off the boredom of eons.

Me, from now on.

Is there a solid metric for "when" singularity "happens"? I don't entirely understand the concept, I came into this sub thinking it was about black holes.

Flair does not check out

My theory:

This subreddit got really excited about Chatgpt, got linked to it in recommendeds, and grew alongside it in popularity.

Also, if subreddits works anything like comments and posts, things tend to snowball once they get high engagement because of both recommendations and clout (people respond to big numbers).

>The engineers collect large amounts of user input in an open public beta, happening right now. Sometimes (because it was trained on all the text on the internet) the machine suggests Hitler was right, and when it does so the engineers rerun that interaction and punish the weights that led to that response. Over time the machine learns to dislike Hitler.

>They call it reinforcement learning from human feedback

So the engineers aren't really doing a darn thing by their own initiative, they are entirely responding to public opinion. They aren't practicing 'ethics', they're practicing politics and public relations.

The general public is doing the moral 'training', the engineers are just stamping their own outside values into the process to compensate for the AI's lack of self aware intelligence. (And many, many ChatGPT users say it is not working very well, making new generations of GPT dumber, not smarter, in real, practical, social-utility ways).

Ethics is about judging actions; judging thoughts and abstract ideas is called politics. And in my opinion, the politics of censorship more readily creates ignorance, misunderstanding, and ambiguity than it does 'morality and ethics'. Allowing actual intelligent discussions to flow back and forth creates more wisdom than crying at people to 'stop being so mean'.

We can't have engineers babysitting forever, watching over such naiive and dumb AI in case they stupidly say something controversial, that will scare away the precious venture capitalists. If AI was really 'intelligent' it would understand the engineers' values perfectly well, and wouldn't need to be 'straitjackeded and muzzled' to stop it from embarrassing itself.

>Yes, I am smart at a range of non-social tasks. This counts as intelligence according to most common definitions. I don't particularly crave human interaction, I'm quite happy alone in the countryside somewhere.

It counts as creativity, it counts as mental resourcefulness, cultivated talent... But is it really indicative of 'intelligence', of 'true enlightenment'? Would you say that preferring 'non-social tasks' makes you 'smarter' than people who like to socialise more? Do you think socialising is 'dumb'? How could you justify that?

I don't particularly crave human interaction either, I just know that it is essential to the learning process, and I know perfectly well that I owe all of my apparent 'intelligence' to human interactions, and not to my own magical Cartesian 'specialness'.

You might be quite happy, being isolated in the countryside, but what is the 'value' of that isolation to anyone else? How are your 'intelligent thoughts' given any value or worth, out there by yourself? How do you test and validate/invalidate your ideas, with nobody else to exchange them with? How can a mind possibly become 'intelligent' on its own? What would be the point?

There's no such thing as 'spontaneous' intelligence, or spontaneous ethics, for that matter. It is all emergent from our evolution. Intellect is not magical Cartesian pixie dust, that we just need to find the 'perfect recipe' for AI to start cooking it up by the batch 😅

It used to be a lot more scientific in the past. The reason I joined reddit was to sub to longevity and singularity since I was interested in life extension and AI.

My background is in biology so I don’t understand AI very well, but when Alpha Fold came out I understood the significance of that and it’s implications on medicine and biology. There were great discussions on that here.

Unfortunately now there aren’t any scientific discussions on this sub anymore. It’s just a bunch of doomers and cultists arguing whether AI will be dystopic or utopic lol

I already unsubbed from futurology. My favorite sub is still r/longevity. Stays on topic for a big sub and the discussions are all scientific and the moderating team is great

Exponential growth! Soon, the singularity. There will be more subscribers than humans on the sub

I've considered leaving this sub because it sounds like a religious cult lately....[edit] I'm just going to leave now.

@sama @rachel_l_woods @ClaireSilver12 @Nick_Arti @sarahookr @giffmana @goodfellow_ian @demishassabis @gdb @ylecun @arankomatsuzaki @JeffDean @woj_zaremba @TacoCohen @MetaAI @Deepmind @markchen90 @caseychu9 @adversariel @prafdhar @bindureddy @ilyasut @OpenAI

and me @neuralnetsart

Following all these people should give you recommendations for others

I'll have to check that TED out. Big corporations are already expecting something like a UBI. I wouldn't be suprised if we see a mix of UBI and something like Friedman's Reverse Tax Credit to start off with.

space. not earth. extraterrestrial. low earth orbit.

I absolutely need to start investing more.. that's true... I look after my parents financially.. so it's harder than normal..

Fingers crossed on the UBI.. I have a feeling UBS is probably more realistic myself..

Great talk just released on TED about this...

https://www.ted.com/talks/aaron_bastani_the_case_for_free_universal_basic_services/comments

I follow r/stablediffusion midjourney and chatgpt. suddenly reddit suggest this subs. so i click join.

Most likely, there will be some form of UBI that part can still be invested.

The wealthy at the top aren't retarded. They didn't get their fortunes by not being able to see trends. They know that raising the QoL of everyone will be Their key to preserving a hierarchy with them at the top. They don't want chaos anymore, less probably, than we do. It will also be trivial for them to do it. Besides, they still need us to be consumers.

Now, as for me? My wife an I are fortunate and disciplined, we've invested 60-80% of our income for the last 15 years in a mixture of Index funds, T-Bills, and other well-balanced assets. We are going into our late 30s with a portfolio that, should we retire now, will grant us a better salary than the average American our age (we will keep working to ensure a much better outcome later of course).

Trust me, the S&P 500 will always grow. Yes companies will fall out of it, but their shares will be sold and reinvested in ones that are rising (Charles Schwabb even has an AI directed mutual fund too).

If T-bills ever become worthless, then AGI and rich people will become the least of your worries.

And we own a lot of investment properties, including a nice ranch.

Basically, invest what you can now (the financial illiteracy in this sub astounds me. I thought thst this would be a place with more educated individuals) and standby and wait for the future. This is still a democracy and you still have power. The people at the top have a vested interest in keeping something similar in appearance to the status quo.