> Their approach to safety, to put it simply, would be to keep it in an invisible box, watched by an invisible guard that intervenes covertly when needed to keep it within that box should it stray towards the outside.

Can't ideas still leak out and get into human minds?

Honestly, I think trying to get a job with the central Government / federal government of your country is probably the best idea.

> Religion has no place in this.

As a Taoist pedant, I lol'd.

Cultural programming.

We are on reddit, that's not an option around here

> People who worry about 'purpose' should be super careful that that isn't their Capitalist brainwashing talking, because in this day and age, with the veritable flooding of Capitalist propaganda through every avenue, including the obvious (advertising, cultural productions) to the least suspicious (seemingly simple interactions with family/friends), there's a high chance anyone who thinks they need work has been thoroughly tricked into loving the fact they're a cog for the profit of a few.

What do you consider "Capitalist" propaganda?

As far as I'm concerned, the much more dangerous form of propaganda out there that's flying below most everyone's radar is "democracy" propaganda.

Economic systems are subordinate to the governmental system, provided actors within the economic system haven't taken over the governmental system (a bit too late for that methinks).

Install an actual democracy and these "capitalism" issues will be solved rather quickly, perhaps even voluntarily - "Would you like to share a bit more, or would you like to be nationalized / 'fucked with constantly'?" can be rather persuasive.

Also noteworthy: governmental systems are subordinate to Mother Nature.

It’s a tool like any other. Everything you’re saying here is what people said about photography, the radio, television, digital art, typewriters, word processors, calculators, etc.

Does that mean that they won’t replace any jobs? No. But everyone must always keep their job skills fresh if they want to earn a good living. Learn to work with these tools and you’ll become more in demand to employers.

That's a funny thought.

Just having the "pleasure" button artificialy pushed would feel empty. But having a great time, and sharing it with new people, in new locations, discovering new stuff, in a wrold with enough tech to imagine new experiences, travels, forms of arts, or type of sentient entities we can't even think of today could probably keep me entertained at least a few centuries.

But if we ever get to witness the singularity, our best bet is to stay mentally flexible, and ready to reassess any of our belief. Because that would be one hell of a ride to destination unknown.

You’re right. AI will in effect be free labor.

In fact productivity is now inverse to employment. And the more a company automates the more productive capacity they will have. No one is questioning that.

What I (and others) are questioning is how will we be able to financially support ourselves at least in the short term when job opportunities continually become scarce, cost of living expenses continue to rise, and our basic survival gets drawn into question.

Remember most people work jobs they likely hate because they have to get a paycheck to put a roof over their head and put food on the table.

Automation takes away those paychecks. And that’s where the problems I fear will happen if our idiot leaders do nothing to adapt to this new reality.

The point I was making is that without direct access to the model we don't know. It's easy to hide the embarrassing things and only show the nice ones. Maybe the model does get lower perplexity, but it also has to be aligned properly, and OpenAI ain't so open about their alignment work, we can't be sure what is the gap now.

I know Flan-T5, it is probably the best small model, but it only gets good scores for extractive and classification tasks, not for creative writing.

it was a brilliant PR move, everyone talked about Google's "sentient" AI

I don't think they're saying that actual factory workers are unintelligent, but that an AI wouldn't need to simulate a great deal of intelligence in order to perform a lot of the menial tasks humans are made to do. Even many complex jobs or trades are largely task-oriented, demanding skill, but not necessarily great leaps of intuition to perform. Your average human is well well above the necessary intelligence to perform the average job, but we do them because somebody has to (and jobs, but that's a whole other thing).

I'm an electrician, I will likely be one of the last to be replaced(along other skilled trades) because of the physical complications of my job. Once robots get advanced enough to do trades work, I'm really hoping ubi will already be long implemented.

> While I know art AI's make beautiful renderings, to me, their potential is squandered on the lazy. Getting more into this, AI art could be so much more if used as a tool. It could do amazing things like generating real-world textures allowing every tree in a game to be unique. But as it stands people seem so much more interested in letting AI do the work for them, instead of letting AI enhance the work they already have done.

This is the main thing that sticks out to me about the AI art revolution, in terms of how it'll really change the game. People are laser-focused on the idea of AI creating bespoke art pieces in their entirety. But a lot of art; be it illustration, animation, game design, comics, etc. contains a lot of tedious, repetitive "art <space> work" that is only tangential to the artists' creative vision and could automated by tech like this.

Another example would be something like a comic book, manga, or animated series. Where the artist designs the world and art style, draws out the characters and their unique looks etc. But then is able to use AI to rapidly generate back-drops or background characters that fit into their specific style. Allowing them to focus on the more specific, key, creative segments of the work.

This could drop the cost and massively increase the accessibility for mediums that currently require numerous tedious hours to produce an incredibly small amount of content, or huge teams of creatives made to do grunt work.

There is an unlimited appetite for new products and services. Humans will always have a role somewhere, the concern is the wealth divide and ensuring a smooth transition.

At some point before we have human LEV, are we going to have immortal mouse pets? Seems like we should already be able to do it based on all the results you read about…

I was getting my results from whowouldwin

I read some of the book How Emotions are Made by Lisa Feldman Barrett, which argues that emotions are made rather than inherited, and furthermore that we develop our emotions to aid us in survival. Emotions in this sense are physical reactions to physical stimuli, and in that sense sort of demystify what emotions really are.

There are so many philosophical questions left unanswered about what it means to be human. For example, why do we believe that the mountains and the sky, the sun and the lake, are beautiful? It's easier for us to understand why we might find other humans attractive--we might think that wide hips are attractive because survival pressures lead us towards that impulse, which allows women to give birth to children with large brains. Yet, even with the body there are aesthetic principles that we don't fully understand and nonetheless find attractive.

Whatever the reason may be, we can be sure that our aesthetic principles are ultimately guided by evolution. This is a fact that is unlikely to change when it comes to machine and artificial intelligence--but the defining feature there is that artificial intelligences are modular, non-biological, and both durable and enduring. In the sense that an artificial agent is modular, it's possible for several agents to combine or to split apart at will, and only elements of themselves at that--but one of the defining features of human identity is that we exist as an immutably singular creature. Although we are made of trillions of cells and other symbiotic creatures, although our brain is composed of billions of individual brain cells, they all act collaboratively to give life to the human specimen, and in the case of the brain to develop a singular identity by which the entire body can act in unison.

Understanding this, what kind of identity might an artificial agent form? I don't claim to fully know, nor could I ever understand in entirety given the limited capacity of my human brain. Having a singular identity tends to be conducive to human survival; having several different identities seeking control over one body is likely to cause distress and conflict. This does surprisingly happen in some people with dissociative identity disorder, and is only known to occur from extreme childhood trauma.

Something that we know about humans, I think, is that we have an incredibly strong desire for belonging and connection. It's as if we would be reduced to the realm of beasts if humans were to live on their own as lone hunters and foragers. Socialization has always been our greatest strength, and I think the most relevant questions regarding our humanity and what we will do with it in the future will be questions revolving around how we relate to each other.

Coworkers won’t notice you looking at your other screen during Zoom meetings.

I don't see AI workforce as much different from slave labor. It's free labor, which boosts productivity. Actually, the period which had slavery in the US was one of economic prosperity, not unemployment.

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I think the mistake a lot of people are making is believing there's a limited amount of jobs, and that if AI replace some jobs, new jobs won't take their place.

In reality, there is far more work available than there are workers and money to employ them.

In reality, AI is a good thing because it replaces simplistic/menial jobs by higher-quality jobs.

People in the industrial era made the same mistake, thinking machines will "steal" their jobs, lacking the imagination that billions of new jobs will get created from the upward spiral of industrialization. Moderns laugh at them for being so stupid, yet i see the same thing happening now with AI, it's kinda funny.

Will doo a physical job. Stay fit or starve guys.