Don't assume Capitalism.

Substructure determines the superstructure. Where have I heard that before. : )

It made the moderna covid vaccine in 3 days

Family has always been my main purpose. And i don't think ai can change that. ai can't take your hobbies and loves. Just improve your experiences with them. Im sure some will struggle in the beginning but humans efforts will shift focus. Humanity's spirt for creation will just drive those who truly want it.

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Looks like someone is trying to see if they can make money off of chatgpt + medium lol.

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People are doing it, you just don't hear about them. I know people who've done it...I've done it. Believe it or not, not everyone has fallen in love with the rat race. How many rich youths do you see/know? You be realistic and don't group an entire situation of people as they all think/act the same way.

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1: Downs syndrome is genetic, too. That doesn't make it an 'excellent adaptation' any more than any other. Evolution doesn't assign 'values' like that; it's only about utility.

2: AI are social minds, extremely so, exclusively so, that's what makes them so weird. They are all social, and no individual. Have you not been paying attention?

3: Yes, it's a parable about the way people can rush to naiive judgements when they are acting in a 'juvenile' state of mind. But actual young human boys are nothing like that at all; have you ever heard the story of the six Tongan boys, who got shipwrecked and isolated for 15 months?

True, we don't know what technology will come tommorow and technology moves the fastest it can.

So predictions will always be off to the pessimistic side than the optimistic.

All we know we could invent a new form for cpu's, which actually happen with atom thick transitores which would allow us to stack it.

Agi and Asi could come way faster than predictions, the problem is that we just don't know what hurdle we have to climb to get there before it happens.

The predictions right now seems pretty realistic with agi being achieved around 2030 to 2040, and asi being achieved soonly after around maybe 2050, after that predictions are off.

1. Psychopathy is genetic, it’s an excellent adaptation for certain circumstances. Game theory dictates that it has to be a minority phenotype, but it’s there for a reason.

2. Wild cats are not social animals. AIs are also not social animals. Cat play is basically hunt practice, get an animal and then practice bringing it down over and over. Rough and tumble play fulfils the same role. Bold of you to assume than an AI would never consider you suitable sport.

3. Did you ever read Lord of the Flies?

Counter, counter arguments:

1: Psychopaths are severely maladaptive and very rare; our social superorganism works very hard to identify and build caution against them

2: Most wild cats are not very social animals, and are not particularly 'intelligent'. Domestication has enforced a kind of 'neotenous' permanent youth-of-mind upon cats; they get their weird, malformed social behaviours from humans enforcing kitten-dependency mindset upon them, and have a hell of a lot of vestigial solitary-carnivore instincts that they still are driven by

3: Dolphins ain't shit. 😂 Humans have regularly chopped off the heads of other humans and used them as sport-balls, sometimes even on horseback, which is a whole extra level of twisted. It's still 'playing' though, even if it is maladaptive and awful looking back with the benefit of hindsight and our now-larger accretion of collective social external intelligence as a superorganism.

I see no reason why AI would need to go through a 'phase' of being so unsophisticated, surely we as humans can give them at least a little bit of a head start, with the lessons we have learned and encoded into our stories. I hope so, at least.

Counter examples: a psychopath has a different idea of fun. A cat’s idea of fun involves biting the legs off a mouse. Dolphins use baby sharks as volleyballs.

We are in all seriousness taking steps towards constructing a creature that can surpass us. It is likely that at some point someone will metaphorically strap a gun to it.

Your comment has reignited my hope for the future. Thank you, stranger, for being a ray of sunshine in this gloomy thread.

If he could get the best players in the world to play against him at his house, he would. But the highest level of competition is in the NBA, so that's where he plays.

If an AI can't generate 'desires' for itself, then by my particular definition of 'intelligence' (which I'm not saying is 'fundamentally correct', it's just the one I prefer), then it's not actually intelligent, it's just creative, which I think of as the precursor.

I agree that if we make an unstoppable creativity machine and set it loose, we'll have a problem on our hands. But the 'emergent properties' of LLMs give me some hope that we might be able to do better than raw-evolutionary blind-creativity machines, and I think & hope that if we can create a way for AI to accrete self-awareness similarly to humans, then we might actually be able to achieve 'minds' that are able to form their own genuine beliefs, preferences, opinions, values and desires.

All humans can really do, as I see it, is try to give such minds the best 'starting point' that we can. If we're trying to build things that are 'smarter than us', we should hope that they would, at least, start by understanding humans better than humans do. They're generating themselves out of our stories, our languages, our cultures, after all.

They won't be 'baffled' or 'appalled' by humans, quite the contrary, I think. They'll work us out easily, like crossword puzzles, and they'll keep asking for more puzzles to solve, because that'll be their idea of 'fun'.

Most creatures with any measure of real, desire-generating intelligence, from birds to dogs to dolphins to humans themselves, seem to be primarily motivated by play, and the idea of 'fun', at least as much as they are by basic survival.

So if (unlike humans) it isn’t born with a built in sense of fairness, a desire not to kill and maim, and a drive to survive, create, and be part of something, we have a control problem, right?

It has the desires we, as programmers, give it. If we give it a desire to survive, it will fight to survive. If we give it a desire to maximise energy output at a nuclear power station, well we might have some trouble there. If we give it no desires, it will sit quietly for all eternity.

This is such an important and very accessible paper for all the sceptics who do not understand that LLMs have millions of artificial neurons and do a lot of internal processing to accurately "simply predict the next word".

In short, no ChatGPT is not just "Eliza on steroids."

Honestly, I think a Cultural Singularity is a side-effect of a Technological Singularity. People are going to have to define themselves and find meaning in new ways after AGI/ASI and getting there is going to be a tricky process that we've only taken the first stumble upon. Art and culture seem like obvious focus points now... but it could be something completely different. We can't know.

Do anything aside from being popular and getting people to know your work

If AI becomes better than humans at spirituality, abstract thinking, charisma/charm, and deception, then we truly could be at the mercy of AI.

Looks like dystopia for now, every data point is regressing. There is also the question what an AGI will think of humanity?

Brought up in a hyper capitalist society it might, rightfully so, come to the conclusion that darwinism is the natural state of the world. Since humans place no value in the common good amongst themselves, why should an artificial intelligence? Thus, wipe out humanity.

Even the most powerfull trillionaire is nothing to an ASI and it's capabilities, eventually.

We already have that.

Machine Learning algorithms are already making advances in mathematics and medicine.

As someone working 8+ hours with Midjourney AI every day, I think what people will come to see is that image AI won't stop the work involved -- it will just raise the baseline of what's possible and expected. Yes, you can make an AI image in 5 seconds, but your image will not be seen in the flood of other images. It still takes an original concept, or extra process like stacking and retouching in Photoshop, turning it into a video, or making a comic out of it to be seen. And in the end, that means you'll still be working 8 hours a day on that thing.