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icedrift t1_j535agx wrote

He's not wrong... In a 2017 survey distributed among AI veterans only 50% think a true AGI will arrive before 2050 https://research.aimultiple.com/artificial-general-intelligence-singularity-timing/

I'd be interested in a more recent poll but this was the most up to date that I could find.

EDIT: Found this from last year https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/H6hMugfY3tDQGfqYL/what-do-ml-researchers-think-about-ai-in-2022

Looks like predictions haven't changed all that much, but there's still a wide range. Nobody really knows that's certain.

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SoylentRox t1_j534guy wrote

If you wanted to dismiss metaclus, you would argue that since it's not a real money betting market, operating for a long period of time, it's not going to work that well. Real money means that people are going to only vote when they are confident, and the long timespan means that losers lose money, and winners gain money, and over time this gives the winners larger "votes" because they can bet more money.

Over an infinite timespan, the winners become the only bettors.

As for AGI in 2027: sure. I mean it's like predicting the first crossing of the atlantic by plane after planes are flying around all over shorter distances. It's obviously possible.

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icedrift t1_j534dwy wrote

Does metaculus only poll people in the field and verify credentials or can anybody submit an estimate? If it's the latter, why take any stock in it? AI seems like one of those things that attracts a lot of fanatics who don't know what they're talking about.

Polls of industry veterans tend to hover around a 40% change of AGI by 2035

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blueSGL t1_j532w0u wrote

Only thing I think it can be is the Helion reactor design. Extracting the energy directly rather than Heat > Steam > Turbine. I'd imagine that would lead to much cheaper plant design and fabrication. Also if the design is good at a specific scale then arrays can be constructed.

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1vyMcqiVtA

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katiecharm OP t1_j5327ts wrote

Nice catch, damn. I gotta be honest, I was pretty fucking drunk when I wrote this last night. To the point where when I looked back at my Reddit this morning I was surprised to see it cause I barely remember writing it.

So it is entirely possible there’s some amazing subconscious plot layers and themes going on here that I can’t even take full credit for.

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InvisibleWrestler t1_j52zfv2 wrote

Companies that have already invested in big machines or equipment that need humans to operate will move to full automation very slowly. If a company just bought many human driven trucks it'll take them long time to switch to fully automated trucks or to upgrade already purchased ones. If a manufacturing plant has been designed with human workers in mind it'll take time and more investment to get full automation. And we're still long way from affordable humanoid robots.

On the other hand if some simple AI cloud subscription could automate the work of an office worker, call center worker, accountant or programmer, that would happen a lot faster.

IMHO office jobs will start getting automated on a large scale in a few years. And a lot earlier than truck or bus drivers.

Aspirational jobs that require a degree and student debt are more at a risk than manual labour.

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zendogsit OP t1_j52yl4y wrote

The company side is annoying to use! Classic.

I'm sure you already see the template prompt for notes of that style you could use

Just free associate to your phones mic, throw down all your thoughts post meeting and GPT orders it nicely for you. More time for presence! More time to focus on the client!

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